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Author Topic: Sheb's European Megathread: Remove Feta!  (Read 1782541 times)

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Re: Sheb's European Politics Megathread
« Reply #16710 on: May 20, 2015, 08:40:01 am »

by banning cash, and by only allowing transactions through one single state-owned bank, they hope to be able to avoid the creation and subsequent blowing up of financial soap bubbles, and prevent future economic crises from affecting their country too much.
why does this sound like socialism
Socialism proper would have no money whatsoever, but I know what you're getting at. This is pretty much word for word what Soviet Bloc countries would do, single state-owned bank and all.

I don't think it means there will be only one bank. It means all payments have to pass through one bank.

Almost all countries have a state-owned bank, by the way.
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Re: Sheb's European Politics Megathread
« Reply #16711 on: May 20, 2015, 08:45:20 am »

by banning cash, and by only allowing transactions through one single state-owned bank, they hope to be able to avoid the creation and subsequent blowing up of financial soap bubbles, and prevent future economic crises from affecting their country too much.
why does this sound like socialism
Socialism proper would have no money whatsoever, but I know what you're getting at. This is pretty much word for word what Soviet Bloc countries would do, single state-owned bank and all.

I don't think it means there will be only one bank. It means all payments have to pass through one bank.

Almost all countries have a state-owned bank, by the way.
But that bank usually doesn't control all money transactions. That's not what state banks usually do.
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Re: Sheb's European Politics Megathread
« Reply #16712 on: May 20, 2015, 09:14:06 am »

While it does sound left-ish, I believe the reason behind it right now is of nationalist conservative origin.
After the European banks crashed, and a lot of them had to be saved with taxpayers money, having (a single) state-owned bank(s) is now as much of a nationalist-populist conservative thing as it is a socialist thing.
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Re: Sheb's European Politics Megathread
« Reply #16713 on: May 20, 2015, 09:57:29 am »

http://rg.ru/2015/05/19/tanki-site-anons.html


Russia, wtf is it again? The Paris treaty was broken by Finland in the early 1990s(when the USSR fell, there was nobody to have a treaty with any more, basically) already. Nobody cared back then. All tanks and a good part of armored vehicles not produced domestically were already of German origin any way.

edit: notice the first comment. Putinbot trolling their own paper, heh.
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Re: Sheb's European Politics Megathread
« Reply #16714 on: May 20, 2015, 10:03:53 am »

Because they might be secret Nazi tanks, waiting 70 years to unleash their master plan of invading Russia through Karelia. Or something.
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Re: Sheb's European Politics Megathread
« Reply #16715 on: May 20, 2015, 10:14:18 am »

http://rg.ru/2015/05/20/house-site.html

this doesn't look like a high-quality news site to me

just saying
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Re: Sheb's European Politics Megathread
« Reply #16716 on: May 20, 2015, 10:23:26 am »

http://rg.ru/2015/05/20/house-site.html

this doesn't look like a high-quality news site to me

just saying

Its the government's own official daily newspaper.
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Re: Sheb's European Politics Megathread
« Reply #16717 on: May 20, 2015, 10:28:46 am »

http://rg.ru/2015/05/20/house-site.html

this doesn't look like a high-quality news site to me

just saying

Its the government's own official daily newspaper.
Like I've said, doesn't look high-quality to me.
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Re: Sheb's European Politics Megathread
« Reply #16718 on: May 20, 2015, 10:34:29 am »

by banning cash, and by only allowing transactions through one single state-owned bank, they hope to be able to avoid the creation and subsequent blowing up of financial soap bubbles, and prevent future economic crises from affecting their country too much.
why does this sound like socialism
Socialism proper would have no money whatsoever, but I know what you're getting at. This is pretty much word for word what Soviet Bloc countries would do, single state-owned bank and all.

I don't think it means there will be only one bank. It means all payments have to pass through one bank.

Almost all countries have a state-owned bank, by the way.

I know, but not all countries have ONLY that one state owned bank.
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Re: Sheb's European Politics Megathread
« Reply #16719 on: May 20, 2015, 10:59:40 am »

If most places refuse to accept cash in Denmark, could cause massive problems for homeless people who cannot obtain a debit card (and, of course, tourists).
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Re: Sheb's European Politics Megathread
« Reply #16720 on: May 20, 2015, 11:56:25 am »

All these drives to make cashless economies really rustle me the wrong way :|

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Re: Sheb's European Politics Megathread
« Reply #16721 on: May 20, 2015, 12:21:26 pm »

All these drives to make cashless economies really rustle me the wrong way :|
It would be easier for the gov't to track and stop cash flow, to create more monies out of nowhere and most importantly tax every transaction.  Well, in short, it will give the gov't even more control over its citizens and those who do business with their people.
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Re: Sheb's European Politics Megathread
« Reply #16722 on: May 20, 2015, 12:43:10 pm »

If government controls all transactions and they're all digital, it doesn't fucking need to tax anyone, it can simply spawn money out of its ass and nobody will notice because it's all controlled by government.
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Re: Sheb's European Politics Megathread
« Reply #16723 on: May 20, 2015, 12:45:26 pm »

Yes, nobody would notice an increase in the supply of money. That's definitely the reason they don't print literal money now, because people would see them printing it.
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Re: Sheb's European Politics Megathread
« Reply #16724 on: May 20, 2015, 12:48:35 pm »

I don't think it means there will be only one bank. It means all payments have to pass through one bank.

Almost all countries have a state-owned bank, by the way.

I know, but not all countries have ONLY that one state owned bank.

And once again, I don't think there is any indication that Denmark will only allow that one bank to exist.
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