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Re: Sheb's European Politics Megathread
« Reply #16260 on: May 07, 2015, 03:46:42 pm »

I put some very small bets on seats I think will go ways I don't want - East Renfrewshire, Berwickshire, Glasgow North East and Edinburgh South if I remember correctly. I've got bets on East Renfrewshire, GNE and Edinburgh South staying Labour while Berwickshire goes Tory from Lib Dem. The odds are still in the SNP's favour in some of these seats but I'm preparing for the worst. I put a bet on the SNP winning less than 50 seats too. If it all goes "badly" I should win around £25 that I can spend on a 1ltr bottle of Teacher's whisky and drink until I forget.
This is now how I will prepare for every national election in the US.
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Re: Sheb's European Politics Megathread
« Reply #16261 on: May 07, 2015, 03:50:19 pm »

If it all goes "badly" I should win around £25 that I can spend on a 1ltr bottle of Teacher's whisky and drink until I forget.

I should've done this last September. Pretty sure I sat through half the results coming in before saying 'fuck it' and collapsing on the floor next to an empty bottle of Bell's.

Not that that will do anything to bridle my optimism for tonight. :P It'd be really nice if the SNP manage to push through some voting reform, though. I really want to vote Greens but it's basically pointless due to FPTP. My bro is standing as an MP and I think he's gonna get like 1% votes if lucky. Whoopee...
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« Reply #16262 on: May 07, 2015, 04:01:56 pm »

I should've done this last September. Pretty sure I sat through half the results coming in before saying 'fuck it' and collapsing on the floor next to an empty bottle of Bell's.

I went to bed after Clackmannanshire shat the bed. It just felt like it was a portent of things to come and I knew I wouldn't be able to endure watching Labour/Conservatives celebrating.

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Not that that will do anything to bridle my optimism for tonight. :P It'd be really nice if the SNP manage to push through some voting reform, though. I really want to vote Greens but it's basically pointless due to FPTP. My bro is standing as an MP and I think he's gonna get like 1% votes if lucky. Whoopee...

I felt the same way this year but up in this part of the country the only game in town is SNP. I'm technically in the "mid Scotland and Fife" region though for the Scottish Parliament which could potentially elect a Green or Socialist or two if things go well because that's everything from Stirling to Angus to Fife.... I don't know if Dundee comes into it but if it does then there's a good chance you could even see some SSP in there.

This is now how I will prepare for every national election in the US.

I read somewhere that it was illegal to bet on elections in the US. I don't know if that's true though, it seemed quite strange to me.

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I think the exit poll should be out there about now. Wait... wait... wait

WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT
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Re: Sheb's European Politics Megathread
« Reply #16263 on: May 07, 2015, 04:07:09 pm »

If the SNP get in as a major block, do you think they'll back electoral reform re: FPTP? Considering that, if they do get in at literally all the Scottish seats somehow, that was the only way they could get in as such a large block?
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Re: Sheb's European Politics Megathread
« Reply #16264 on: May 07, 2015, 04:09:58 pm »

My understanding is that Plaid have a good chance at taking Ynys Mon and Ceredigion in addition to holding onto their 3 seats due to a handy surge in Plaid's favour. If UKIP are as popular as they seem to be in the Anglophone parts of the Welsh-speaking territories (e.g. Holyhead) then they'll split the Labour/Lib Dem/Tory vote, arguably letting Plaid in through the back door.

I put some very small bets on seats I think will go ways I don't want - East Renfrewshire, Berwickshire, Glasgow North East and Edinburgh South if I remember correctly. I've got bets on East Renfrewshire, GNE and Edinburgh South staying Labour while Berwickshire goes Tory from Lib Dem. The odds are still in the SNP's favour in some of these seats but I'm preparing for the worst. I put a bet on the SNP winning less than 50 seats too. If it all goes "badly" I should win around £25 that I can spend on a 1ltr bottle of Teacher's whisky and drink until I forget.

Of course, I've been reminding myself all day that if the SNP win 15 seats it'll be the best result they've ever had. If they win 25 it'll be an earthquake, if they win 35 it'll be incredible (the first time they've ever won a Scottish Westminster election), if they win 45+ it'll be astounding...

5 PC seats would be the beginnings of them really looking to follow the SNP, and allow for a much greater credibility in the eyes of the English speaking parts of Wales - especially if those 5 MP's can take on a role in a government via Lab/SNP/Green/PC coalition. I do fancy PC in Ynys Mon, my home seat of Arfon (though both are far too close to call thanks to a strong old school Labour candidate in Arfon, and Holyhead being a Labour post industrial stronghold, both competing well with highly popular PC candidates with the rural community on their side), Ceredigion (Marginal PC/LibDem "should" go to PC thanks to LibDem capitulation), Dwyfor (theoretically safe), and Carmarthen (also theoretically safe).

What I really want to see is PC making inroads in the south. Can they push into 3rd or 2nd place in safe Lab/Tory seats? Could PC take Llanelli? That would only take a few thousands votes to swing. If so, it could provide a useful platform to move forward from in the future. Traditional heartlands are all well and good, but if PC want to get real change for the better in Wales, they need support that offers a mandate for said change. If not, the age old problem of how to make PC appeal to all sectors of welsh society remain. In some ways the lack of a language divide makes this so much easier for SNP.

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Re: Sheb's European Politics Megathread
« Reply #16265 on: May 07, 2015, 04:10:13 pm »

EDIT: Sorry probably shouldn't post like that.
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Re: Sheb's European Politics Megathread
« Reply #16266 on: May 07, 2015, 04:19:50 pm »

Spoiler: WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT (click to show/hide)

Plaid are also on 4 seats, so it looks like you're right MonkeyHead. The exit poll was spot on in 2010 - a lot of Labour activists out there are hoping otherwise this year.

If the SNP get in as a major block, do you think they'll back electoral reform re: FPTP? Considering that, if they do get in at literally all the Scottish seats somehow, that was the only way they could get in as such a large block?

The SNP have pledged to back further electoral reform.
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Re: Sheb's European Politics Megathread
« Reply #16267 on: May 07, 2015, 04:21:47 pm »

I think the exit poll should be out there about now. Wait... wait... wait

WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT

@_@ it's...

Not sure whether to be scared at the Tory victory or to be super excited at SNP taking basically the whole fucking Scottish pie.
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Re: Sheb's European Politics Megathread
« Reply #16268 on: May 07, 2015, 04:22:31 pm »

I thought UKIP was... bigger.
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Re: Sheb's European Politics Megathread
« Reply #16269 on: May 07, 2015, 04:22:51 pm »

Also what's with Farage's dumb head doing on that graphic when it should be that lovely Welsh woman?
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Re: Sheb's European Politics Megathread
« Reply #16270 on: May 07, 2015, 04:24:47 pm »

I'd go with scared.
Going to have another 5 years of Tories shitting on the country, and I don't think SNP will be able to do a great deal about it. And people voted for this.
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« Reply #16271 on: May 07, 2015, 04:27:59 pm »

I'd go with scared.
Going to have another 5 years of Tories shitting on the country, and I don't think SNP will be able to do a great deal about it. And people voted for this.

Even if every single Scottish constituency voted Labour the Tories would still have gotten in. Labour have just completely collapsed in England, god damnit Miliband.

Nicola Sturgeon is saying the poll is bollocks and she doesn't think the SNP will get 58 seats. Labour have said they'd be "delighted" to win just 10 seats in Scotland though - god help them.

If we get another Tory government this means one thing - EU referendum. Hold onto your hats, folks.
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Re: Sheb's European Politics Megathread
« Reply #16272 on: May 07, 2015, 04:29:48 pm »

Ed's dead baby, Ed's dead.
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Re: Sheb's European Politics Megathread
« Reply #16273 on: May 07, 2015, 04:30:50 pm »

Even if every single Scottish constituency voted Labour the Tories would still have gotten in. Labour have just completely collapsed in England, god damnit Miliband.
Oh, I know that. I meant that the Tories have enough seats that they can pretty much do what they want. Again.
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Re: Sheb's European Politics Megathread
« Reply #16274 on: May 07, 2015, 04:31:04 pm »

Spoiler: WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT (click to show/hide)

Bloody hell, no. No more Tories, please!
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