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[Ukrainian Ranger]

Dear Ded Moroz, I know that it's totally not an appropriate time to send wishes to you, but can you please make average price on oil in this year more than 100 $ per barrel?

Dear Ded Moroz, you can easily achieve this by making full worldwide embargo on Russian oil happen.

[Helgoland]

Or by another big war somewhere. Be careful what you wish for, guys.

[Sergarr]

"Another big war" is pretty much inevitable at this point, what with the Cold War 2.0: The Hottening happening right now.

It's not like my wishes can change the obvious fact that the world hasn't seen a big war for far too long period of time, making people who knew that it is a Bad Thing™ die out and replacing them with young people who've learned only that it was a "morally just war of Good against Evil".

My only hope is that this big war manages to keep itself mostly in the economical sphere a la Cold War.

[mainiac]

It doesn't count as a cold war if one of the side's has it's power projection run out 50 miles from it's border.  Unless it's of vital interest to people in far away places like Nicaragua and Vietnam you aren't talking about superpowers.

[Sergarr]

It doesn't count as a cold war if one of the side's has it's power projection run out 50 miles from it's border.  Unless it's of vital interest to people in far away places like Nicaragua and Vietnam you aren't talking about superpowers.

So nuclear missiles do not project power???

[Zangi]

It doesn't count as a cold war if one of the side's has it's power projection run out 50 miles from it's border.  Unless it's of vital interest to people in far away places like Nicaragua and Vietnam you aren't talking about superpowers.

So nuclear missiles do not project power???

They are more of a protection measure against foreign meddling these days.  You don't go around threatening your neighbors with them, unless you are Glorious Leader of Korea.
I guess Pakistan and India has em too?  They ain't throwing their weight around.  And Big Brother has other means of convincing others.  Even Mother Russia ain't threatening anyone with their stockpile.

Though, I guess the fear with Iran is that the crazies there will one up Glorious Leader and go straight for the prize, cause religion.

[mainiac]

So nuclear missiles do not project power???

Unless you are Dr. Evil.

[Morrigi]

It doesn't count as a cold war if one of the side's has it's power projection run out 50 miles from it's border.  Unless it's of vital interest to people in far away places like Nicaragua and Vietnam you aren't talking about superpowers.

So nuclear missiles do not project power???

They are more of a protection measure against foreign meddling these days.  You don't go around threatening your neighbors with them, unless you are Glorious Leader of Korea.
I guess Pakistan and India has em too?  They ain't throwing their weight around.  And Big Brother has other means of convincing others.  Even Mother Russia ain't threatening anyone with their stockpile.

Though, I guess the fear with Iran is that the crazies there will one up Glorious Leader and go straight for the prize, cause religion.

To be fair, didn't Russia "inform" the Netherlands that they would become a nuclear target if they went ahead with their plan to support NATO's anti-ballistic missile network fairly recently?

Also, Iran hasn't overtly attacked another country in more than two centuries. In addition, even with the current government in Iran, Shiites generally aren't as extreme as Sunnis. I'm far more worried about Pakistan's nukes than Iran's nukes that they will totally have in like 2 years guys for the last 30 years.

[smjjames]

It doesn't count as a cold war if one of the side's has it's power projection run out 50 miles from it's border.  Unless it's of vital interest to people in far away places like Nicaragua and Vietnam you aren't talking about superpowers.

So nuclear missiles do not project power???

They are more of a protection measure against foreign meddling these days.  You don't go around threatening your neighbors with them, unless you are Glorious Leader of Korea.
I guess Pakistan and India has em too?  They ain't throwing their weight around.  And Big Brother has other means of convincing others.  Even Mother Russia ain't threatening anyone with their stockpile.

Though, I guess the fear with Iran is that the crazies there will one up Glorious Leader and go straight for the prize, cause religion.

To be fair, didn't Russia "inform" the Netherlands that they would become a nuclear target if they went ahead with their plan to support NATO's anti-ballistic missile network fairly recently?

Wasn't that Dennmark and not the Netherlands? I think I recall something about Russia threatening or 'informing' Dennmark about something in relation to the NATO missile stuff? Or maybe another NATO thing.

[Morrigi]

It doesn't count as a cold war if one of the side's has it's power projection run out 50 miles from it's border.  Unless it's of vital interest to people in far away places like Nicaragua and Vietnam you aren't talking about superpowers.

So nuclear missiles do not project power???

They are more of a protection measure against foreign meddling these days.  You don't go around threatening your neighbors with them, unless you are Glorious Leader of Korea.
I guess Pakistan and India has em too?  They ain't throwing their weight around.  And Big Brother has other means of convincing others.  Even Mother Russia ain't threatening anyone with their stockpile.

Though, I guess the fear with Iran is that the crazies there will one up Glorious Leader and go straight for the prize, cause religion.

To be fair, didn't Russia "inform" the Netherlands that they would become a nuclear target if they went ahead with their plan to support NATO's anti-ballistic missile network fairly recently?

Wasn't that Dennmark and not the Netherlands? I think I recall something about Russia threatening or 'informing' Dennmark about something in relation to the NATO missile stuff? Or maybe another NATO thing.

Might have been Denmark, I don't remember.

Edit: Yep, it was Denmark.

[Sergarr]

It was Denmark, yeah. For building and hosting some anti-ballistic missile stuff, they've been put onto "destroy in case of war" list.

So nuclear missiles do not project power???

Unless you are Dr. Evil.

So you mean that if, for example, we take away nuclear missiles from USA (and USA only), that will not diminish their ability to project power?

Granted, in modern times they're more used to augment the other existing methods of power projection, but still.

[Guardian G.I.]

Speaking of Russia, a very late image - the new Russian MBT T-14 on the streets of Moscow:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

[Zangi]

Iran's main PR problem with nuclear stuff is one of its own making, cause of their Hezbollah and their statements of Israel's destruction. 
I'd think turning their holy land into a nuclear wasteland is the last thing the religious fundamentalists would want...


Huh, so Glorious Russia is the actually-capable-of-following-through-with-threats brand of Glorious Leader.

It was Denmark, yeah. For building and hosting some anti-ballistic missile stuff, they've been put onto "destroy in case of war" list.

So nuclear missiles do not project power???

Unless you are Dr. Evil.

So you mean that if, for example, we take away nuclear missiles from USA (and USA only), that will not diminish their ability to project power?

Granted, in modern times they're more used to augment the other existing methods of power projection, but still.

Nuclear power is protection against foreign meddling these days.  But that is based on the fact that noone will use it unless they are in danger of being taken over/destroyed. 

But yea, it will hamper the US's ability to project their power over things that nuclear powers, like Russia, are interested. 
The US can still be an asshole to most of the southern hemisphere though.  Heck, having no nuclear stockpile will probably free up some cash for other military toys.

[mainiac]

Sometimes I wonder what people think "projecting power" actually means in the world we currently live in.

[Sergarr]

Sometimes I wonder what people think "projecting power" actually means in the world we currently live in.

Ability to tell other states what they should do with an implied threat of destruction if they don't comply?