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[smeeprocket]

Don't make me argue this because the other person arguing it is coming off as terribly sexist, imo.

Listen, I don't care what views you have, but what I don't appreciate is being insulted, so kindly don't.

OK, I'm just gonna say it, he said it's coming off as sexist- it might not to other people, but saying 'I'm insulted' doesn't argue any point whatsoever. It's little more than a whine. If you want him to stop saying that, prove and argue how it's not sexist instead of saying 'I've been insulted!'

well said, but I'm a she

[smeeprocket]

Even if babies do eat bodily fluids, the sound and implications, which are much harder to avoid in an enclosed space, where you are consuming food, is just stomach turning.

No, it's not. Not objectively. And if it's not objective, you might as well ban consuming pork and beef in public in case a stray religious person with cultural objections finds it disgusting.

how about this? no kids or babies at restaurants AT ALL that aren't for children because they are disruptive, uncontrolled, and obnoxious most of the time.

[Graknorke]

>SJW
>Arguing against using being insulted as a defence against criticism

am i in bizarro world

[scrdest]

Even if babies do eat bodily fluids, the sound and implications, which are much harder to avoid in an enclosed space, where you are consuming food, is just stomach turning.

No, it's not. Not objectively. And if it's not objective, you might as well ban consuming pork and beef in public in case a stray religious person with cultural objections finds it disgusting.

how about this? no kids or babies at restaurants AT ALL that aren't for children because they are disruptive, uncontrolled, and obnoxious most of the time.

So are many adults

[smeeprocket]

>SJW
>Arguing against using being insulted as a defence against criticism

am i in bizarro world

First off, SJW is extremely derogatory.

Second off, I'm not the one that said that.

Third off, those things are not related like you think they are.

[TD1]

I just did.

As for it coming off as a whine, perhaps it does- but it's a rare person who can stand being insulted.

Ah, well, suppose I'm still whining. But who doesn't, eh?

And smee, I know you're deep into the whole gender thing, but calling anyone who differs with you names is not the way forward. Sexist would be if I had said women absolutely have to do as I say, because of their gender- I didn't. I said that it's not a nice thing to make people see what they don't want to see. This applies to all circumstances, unless it needs to be done, and transcends gender.

Arg, I'm not even gonna bother reading the ninjas 'til after I post :/

[Helgoland]

how about this? no kids or babies at restaurants AT ALL that aren't for children because they are disruptive, uncontrolled, and obnoxious most of the time.

I wasn't. I'd like to point out that this proposal shows a collectivist way of thinking...


My views on breastfeeding:
I feel uncomfortable around it - even if it's my own sister -, and so do many (!) people. It's irrational, but the discomfort is there. Nevertheless there's no reason to ban the practice. The ideal solution would be for nursing mothers not to breastfeed in public if reasonably possible, and for nobody to complain when they do, because nobody has a God-given right in either direction. Just have a degree of empathy for your fellow man human, regardless of which side you're on!
The same reasoning applies to running around naked in public. There's no reason to forbid me from waving my schlong every which way in Times Square, but it's rather rude since many people don't want to see it, at least in my experience so far.
Not everything should need to be regulated by laws.

[smeeprocket]

I just did.

As for it coming off as a whine, perhaps it does- but it's a rare person who can stand being insulted.

Ah, well, suppose I'm still whining. But who doesn't, eh?

And smee, I know you're deep into the whole gender thing, but calling anyone who differs with you names is not the way forward. Sexist would be if I had said women absolutely have to do as I say, because of their gender- I didn't. I said that it's not a nice thing to make people see what they don't want to see. This applies to all circumstances, unless it needs to be done, and transcends gender.

Arg, I'm not even gonna bother reading the ninjas 'til after I post :/

There you go devaluing my opinion by assuming my focus on gender issues means I'm just accusing you of being sexist for no reason.

I don't think you fully understand how sexism works if that would be your example. A general desire to see women cover themselves up and isolate them for what makes them women, even if its just a desire you don't act on, is sexist.

You might have an argument if you could lobby for men not to breast feed as well, I suppose.

[smeeprocket]

how about this? no kids or babies at restaurants AT ALL that aren't for children because they are disruptive, uncontrolled, and obnoxious most of the time.

I wasn't. I'd like to point out that this proposal shows a collectivist way of thinking...


My views on breastfeeding:
I feel uncomfortable around it - even if it's my own sister -, and so do many (!) people. It's irrational, but the discomfort is there. Nevertheless there's no reason to ban the practice. The ideal solution would be for nursing mothers not to breastfeed in public if reasonably possible, and for nobody to complain when they do, because nobody has a God-given right in either direction. Just have a degree of empathy for your fellow man human, regardless of which side you're on!
The same reasoning applies to running around naked in public. There's no reason to forbid me from waving my schlong every which way in Times Square, but it's rather rude since many people don't want to see it, at least in my experience so far.
Not everything should need to be regulated by laws.

I'm pretty sure collectivist is the go to phrase for everyone else on this forum for... everything.

Thinking kids are absolute monsters on average is not collectivist. Stop using that word every time you disagree with something I say. Christ. There's no way you are using it properly every time, either. Since it gets used in such a myriad of situations and whenever it feels convenient to the accuser.

[Darvi]

You might have an argument if you could lobby for men not to breast feed as well, I suppose.

Men's nipples secrete beer though. That's an actual medical reason not to feed your child that way.

[TD1]

My views on breastfeeding:
I feel uncomfortable around it - even if it's my own sister -, and so do many (!) people. It's irrational, but the discomfort is there. Nevertheless there's no reason to ban the practice. The ideal solution would be for nursing mothers not to breastfeed in public if reasonably possible, and for nobody to complain when they do, because nobody has a God-given right in either direction. Just have a degree of empathy for your fellow man human, regardless of which side you're on!
The same reasoning applies to running around naked in public. There's no reason to forbid me from waving my schlong every which way in Times Square, but it's rather rude since many people don't want to see it, at least in my experience so far.
Not everything should need to be regulated by laws.

I agree with this in its entirety.

[smeeprocket]

You might have an argument if you could lobby for men not to breast feed as well, I suppose.

Men's nipples secrete beer though. That's an actual medical reason not to feed your child that way.

puts hair on their chest and whatnot.

[Graknorke]

First off, SJW is extremely derogatory.

Sure it is, but I thought you associated yourself with the term at some point in the past. I must be mistaken on that I guess.

Second off, I'm not the one that said that.

OK, I'm just gonna say it, he said it's coming off as sexist- it might not to other people, but saying 'I'm insulted' doesn't argue any point whatsoever. It's little more than a whine. If you want him to stop saying that, prove and argue how it's not sexist instead of saying 'I've been insulted!'

well said, but I'm a she

You hold that opinion. Or at least, you agreed with someone about that opinion, which would be an odd thing to do if you didn't.

Third off, those things are not related like you think they are.

They are very much related. "Your rights end where my feelings begin" and so on.


Anyway, it was only a lighthearted comment on how your position conflicts with things you've said before. No need to get so het up about it.

[smeeprocket]

First off, SJW is extremely derogatory.

Sure it is, but I thought you associated yourself with the term at some point in the past. I must be mistaken on that I guess.

Second off, I'm not the one that said that.

OK, I'm just gonna say it, he said it's coming off as sexist- it might not to other people, but saying 'I'm insulted' doesn't argue any point whatsoever. It's little more than a whine. If you want him to stop saying that, prove and argue how it's not sexist instead of saying 'I've been insulted!'

well said, but I'm a she

You hold that opinion. Or at least, you agreed with someone about that opinion, which would be an odd thing to do if you didn't.

Third off, those things are not related like you think they are.

They are very much related. "Your rights end where my feelings begin" and so on.


Anyway, it was only a lighthearted comment on how your position conflicts with things you've said before. No need to get so het up about it.

Well being called an SJW is a surefire way to raise my hackles.

[Darvi]

Somebody needs to make a skeleton→SJW extension so we can talk about the SJW's that got locked up in somebody's closet.