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10ebbor10

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Re: Sheb's European Politics Megathread
« Reply #12450 on: October 30, 2014, 09:04:07 am »

The US had some actual nuclear powered airplane plans as well, as did the Soviet Union.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear-powered_aircraft

Hell, the US even developed a working engine.
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Re: Sheb's European Politics Megathread
« Reply #12451 on: October 30, 2014, 09:10:34 am »

Yes well, I'm pretty sure we don't routinely violate airspace with our nuclear bombers.
What do you mean by "nuclear bombers"? I'm pretty sure that nuclear bombs are usually delivered through much faster and saver means - inter-continental ballistic missiles, not bombers.

Is this "nuclear bomber" idea another USA thing that I'm not aware of?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tupolev_Tu-95#Present_and_future_status
Okay. Somehow I still think this is a pretty stupid idea, given the air supremacy of our opponents, but whatever.

Also,
You can see the shape of the potential Novorossiya on this image pretty clearly.

And before any one cries Russian propaganda, here's this site: http://map.oporaua.org/rezultaty-viboriv
I haven't found any major discrepancies between the two, with the exception of different colors used.
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Re: Sheb's European Politics Megathread
« Reply #12452 on: October 30, 2014, 09:12:17 am »

2 bads dont make a right be it wars, spying or airspace violations. Russia/USSR has been the one doing most of the middle one and all of or nearly of the last in the Northern Europe for decades.

The US did so as well. Hell, near airspace violations was the raison d'etre of the Blackbird program.

please re-read. In northern Europe.
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Re: Sheb's European Politics Megathread
« Reply #12453 on: October 30, 2014, 09:16:32 am »

Okay. Somehow I still think this is a pretty stupid idea, given the air supremacy of our opponents, but whatever.
Watch "Fail Safe" and "Dr Strangelove" - both films have the idea as their focal point. They can be quite educational.
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Re: Sheb's European Politics Megathread
« Reply #12454 on: October 30, 2014, 09:40:05 am »

I think the "nuke bombers" today are used mostly for carrying (nuke-capable)cruise missiles, anti-shipping or otherwise.
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Re: Sheb's European Politics Megathread
« Reply #12455 on: October 30, 2014, 09:58:52 am »

I think the "nuke bombers" today are used mostly for carrying (nuke-capable)cruise missiles, anti-shipping or otherwise.
I think this is the weapon our big bombers should be armed with.
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Re: Sheb's European Politics Megathread
« Reply #12456 on: October 30, 2014, 10:22:08 am »

I think the "nuke bombers" today are used mostly for carrying (nuke-capable)cruise missiles, anti-shipping or otherwise.
I think this is the weapon our big bombers should be armed with.
Not much a strategic deterrent isn't it.
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Re: Sheb's European Politics Megathread
« Reply #12457 on: October 30, 2014, 11:29:26 am »

I think the "nuke bombers" today are used mostly for carrying (nuke-capable)cruise missiles, anti-shipping or otherwise.
I think this is the weapon our big bombers should be armed with.
Not much a strategic deterrent isn't it.
That's what SSBN are for.
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Re: Sheb's European Politics Megathread
« Reply #12458 on: October 30, 2014, 04:32:55 pm »

All that buzz in Hungary is rather interesting...

BTW, I support Internet tax . Unproductive behavior like watching porn should be taxed in the same way as tobacco or alcohol

I'd love such tax in Ukraine, even if it will lead to me forgetting about no limit and relearning to limit my spent traffic.
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Re: Sheb's European Politics Megathread
« Reply #12459 on: October 30, 2014, 04:34:47 pm »

... Well that's my horrifying idea of the day.
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Re: Sheb's European Politics Megathread
« Reply #12460 on: October 30, 2014, 05:16:12 pm »

All that buzz in Hungary is rather interesting...

BTW, I support Internet tax . Unproductive behavior like watching porn should be taxed in the same way as tobacco or alcohol

I'd love such tax in Ukraine, even if it will lead to me forgetting about no limit and relearning to limit my spent traffic.

There isn't really any difference between unproductive work and productive work as far as the tax is concerned, especially as it has to be paid by the ISPs after GBs of traffic. The protests are a bit more of a last drop in the bucket kind of thing, mostly by the younger middle class pro-EU demographic although the first one had some football ultras which gave it a bit more of a French temperament.
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« Reply #12461 on: October 30, 2014, 05:21:55 pm »

Yes I heard about the last straw moment. Besides Hungarian tax looks too high.

On other hand I still think it is a good idea. Productive behavior requires much less traffic. And encouraging people to conserve resources is something I like.
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Re: Sheb's European Politics Megathread
« Reply #12462 on: October 30, 2014, 05:26:14 pm »

Productive behavior requires much less traffic. And encouraging people to conserve resources is something I like.
A) I don't think that statement is always true.
B) What resource is it that you want to conserve? Information?
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Re: Sheb's European Politics Megathread
« Reply #12463 on: October 30, 2014, 05:28:27 pm »

Very bad idea, and I'm in this field. You want internet fast and cheap, it's a big edge for your industry.
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Re: Sheb's European Politics Megathread
« Reply #12464 on: October 30, 2014, 05:35:23 pm »

Productive behavior requires much less traffic. And encouraging people to conserve resources is something I like.
A) I don't think that statement is always true.
B) What resource is it that you want to conserve? Information?

Duh, porn. After all that's what the Internet is for. The Ukrainian Porn Mines estimate the depletion of currently extracted sources of crude smut until 2043.
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