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[Dutchling]

Two fishermen detained by Estonian Border Guards after their boat crossed onto the Estonian side are both former KGB officers.

I guess this proves that there's no such thing as a former KGB officer

[Owlbread]

The dream is simply too powerful to be broken by something like the events of last week. In my heart of hearts I firmly believe that independence is coming yet for a' that.

[LordSlowpoke]

the website said, adding that the arrests could be an Estonian retaliation for the arrest of ISS official Eston Kohver earlier in September.

no shit

that and the boat

mines on the border when

[smjjames]

Two fishermen detained by Estonian Border Guards after their boat crossed onto the Estonian side are both former KGB officers.

I guess this proves that there's no such thing as a former KGB officer

In the same way that Putin is former KGB and yet acts like the cold war never ended?

[WarRoot]

In what?

In elections.

And why's that a good thing that only two parties are competing with each other?

[miljan]

Two fishermen detained by Estonian Border Guards after their boat crossed onto the Estonian side are both former KGB officers.

I guess this proves that there's no such thing as a former KGB officer

In the same way that Putin is former KGB and yet acts like the cold war never ended?

Cold war never ended. It went just low, but is picking up pace (from 2000) with chine becoming more powerful and russia also. In near future you will probably see forming of a new block like NATO for asia

[smjjames]

Two fishermen detained by Estonian Border Guards after their boat crossed onto the Estonian side are both former KGB officers.

I guess this proves that there's no such thing as a former KGB officer

In the same way that Putin is former KGB and yet acts like the cold war never ended?

Cold war never ended. It went just low, but is picking up pace (from 2000) with chine becoming more powerful and russia also. In near future you will probably see forming of a new block like NATO for asia

I don't know about a NATO-like bloc for Asia, the East and SouthEast Asian countries are nowhere near as unified and friendly with each other as Europe is.

You saw how difficult it was to get the SE Asia countries to cooperate during the Malaysia Airlines 370 crash search and investigation. Though understandably a good part of that was because nobody wanted to share sensitive military radar data.

[Darvi]

Two fishermen detained by Estonian Border Guards after their boat crossed onto the Estonian side are both former KGB officers.

I guess this proves that there's no such thing as a former KGB officer

In the same way that Putin is former KGB and yet acts like the cold war never ended?

Cold war never ended. It went just low, but is picking up pace (from 2000) with chine becoming more powerful and russia also. In near future you will probably see forming of a new block like NATO for asia

You could even say it went

B|

tepid.

[Sheb]

China yes, but I don't see Russia as becoming more powerful. More rash yes, but more powerful? Certainly not. They might end up as a minor partner in a China-centered NATO equivalent maybe.

[Sergarr]

China is too Chinese to be a leader in any sort of international organization. Also, Russia is 1.7 times bigger than China.

[smjjames]

China yes, but I don't see Russia as becoming more powerful. More rash yes, but more powerful? Certainly not. They might end up as a minor partner in a China-centered NATO equivalent maybe.

They are allies of China atm, but that's more 'allied on paper', thier relationship certainly isn't that of best friends as it was during Soviet times.

Aside from disputed island territories, I don't think they have any land territory ambitions.

China is too Chinese to be a leader in any sort of international organization. Also, Russia is 1.7 times bigger than China.

A lot of that is uninhabited land, if you're talking about land area.

[Sergarr]

China yes, but I don't see Russia as becoming more powerful. More rash yes, but more powerful? Certainly not. They might end up as a minor partner in a China-centered NATO equivalent maybe.

They are allies of China atm, but that's more 'allied on paper', thier relationship certainly isn't that of best friends as it was during Soviet times.

Aside from disputed island territories, I don't think they have any land territory ambitions.

China is too Chinese to be a leader in any sort of international organization. Also, Russia is 1.7 times bigger than China.

A lot of that is uninhabited land, if you're talking about land area.

To the bolded part: What.

[Owlbread]

Owlbread, I don't think you'll be getting a referendum in six years' time. Probably gonna be longer than that.

The government probably only gave Scotland the referendum because they thought it'd very definitely be pro-union. I think the only circumstances they'd give a referendum are that and if Scotland looked on the verge of revolution.

This is all very true; the thing is, with "Home Rule" one of the essential rights that should be devolved is the right to hold referendums on our constitutional future. Ultimately we will set the agenda. If the UK try to block a referendum in the event of an EU exit, we should try to learn from our Catalan friends. The fact that Cameron gave us the referendum without much fuss was a bit of a problem for us, otherwise it would have really galvanised Yes support.

[smjjames]

China yes, but I don't see Russia as becoming more powerful. More rash yes, but more powerful? Certainly not. They might end up as a minor partner in a China-centered NATO equivalent maybe.

They are allies of China atm, but that's more 'allied on paper', thier relationship certainly isn't that of best friends as it was during Soviet times.

Aside from disputed island territories, I don't think they have any land territory ambitions.

China is too Chinese to be a leader in any sort of international organization. Also, Russia is 1.7 times bigger than China.

A lot of that is uninhabited land, if you're talking about land area.

To the bolded part: What.

Forgive my ignorance, I thought they pretty much were, which is simply due to a lack of knowledge of their relationship at the time.

[miljan]

China yes, but I don't see Russia as becoming more powerful. More rash yes, but more powerful? Certainly not. They might end up as a minor partner in a China-centered NATO equivalent maybe.

Umm what? Russia after 2000 economic, military and almost in every way is more powerful than russia before 2000. That is what I mean when i said russia is getting more powerful, witch it did in the past.  Also I am not sure about minor partner. They would be the second strongest partner in alliance, that will be leaded by china (there is no doubt about that, same as nato).