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[Guardian G.I.]

Why is the 'world' leaking water there though?

the world depicted there is round

the civilization figure is scrubbing the world in a west-east fashion

since the rag used for scrubbing can be assumed to be made moist beforehand, and the civilization figure is exasperated with being unable to make any impression upon the "dreadful blot", the scrubbing was quite vigorous and led to some of the moisture contained in the rag to remove itself from the premises and fly awaywards with utmost velocity

I love your posts in this thread so much, LSP.

[Helgoland]

You have to admit though, Russia in the 1890's was a shitty place. That caricature is pretty spot-on.

Except for the part where it ignores all the other places that aren't Japan, Europe or North America, but meh - white people didn't count back then.

[Baffler]

It's still a pretty shitty place.

http://www.oecdbetterlifeindex.org/countries/russian-federation/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Where-to-be-born_Index

[Sergarr]

I can't say I disagree with Sergarr entirely.

Personally though, I think once we get things like replicators, whatever form they take, just personal, cheap manufactoring, most of the outer economy will re-orient around raw resources, unless we manage the whole "energy into mass" thing. I dunno, personal anti-matter reactors? Even then, you can't get more mass than you put it, so you still need a raw material to annihilate into energy.

So instead of manufactoring barons, we'll be back to oil barons and mining cartels. Yippee? :V

You see, you don't actually need rare resources to make amazing things.

Proof #1: graphene. Can be potentially made from anything alive. C
Proof #2: silicon: can be used to make computers. Si

We just need to take this to a logical conclusion, which will be using only a few malleable materials to form everything we need.

[mainiac]

Personally though, I think once we get things like replicators, whatever form they take, just personal, cheap manufactoring, most of the outer economy will re-orient around raw resources, unless we manage the whole "energy into mass" thing. I dunno, personal anti-matter reactors? Even then, you can't get more mass than you put it, so you still need a raw material to annihilate into energy.

If the economies of scale are large enough there is nothing to say that we wont just see the current model persist with prices a little lower.

[scriver]

You have to admit though, Russia in the 1890's was a shitty place. That caricature is pretty spot-on.

Except for the part where it ignores all the other places that aren't Japan, Europe or North America, but meh - white people didn't count back then.

Everywhere was a shitty place to be in 1890.

[TheDarkStar]

You see, you don't actually need rare resources to make amazing things.

Proof #1: graphene. Can be potentially made from anything alive. C

We just need to take this to a logical conclusion, which will be using only a few malleable materials to form everything we need. which will be harvesting people for their component atoms.

FTFY

[Loud Whispers]

You see, you don't actually need rare resources to make amazing things.

Proof #1: graphene. Can be potentially made from anything alive. C

We just need to take this to a logical conclusion, which will be using only a few malleable materials to form everything we need. which will be harvesting people for their component atoms.

FTFY

GRAPHENE IS PEAPLE

[Descan]

DER PEARPLE CUM TA TEK ER SILLY CONES!

[Helgoland]

You have to admit though, Russia in the 1890's was a shitty place. That caricature is pretty spot-on.

Except for the part where it ignores all the other places that aren't Japan, Europe or North America, but meh - white people didn't count back then.

Everywhere was a shitty place to be in 1890.

Some places were shittier than others. The village where my mom comes from and the village where my parents live now were horrendously shitty. The neighboring villages, not so much. Colonial Burma must've been bad, but London certainly was much better. Etc etc.

[Sergarr]

I though London in industrial era had permanent thick smog above the city constantly due to all the factories...

[LordSlowpoke]

it still somehow managed to not be as bad as shanghai

[scriver]

London, a good place to live? That's just crazy talk. Not enough work and too many easily replaceable workers, no rights, no health care, no work safety, no social services, wage slavery, debtor's prisons, insanely harsh punishments for even small crimes, smog everywhere, vermin everywhere, diseases everywhere, horseshit everywhere.

Sounds like a lovely place.

[Loud Whispers]

It was actually all right as long as you weren't one of the unfortunate menial workers who wasn't lucky enough to work for an ethical manager, which I guess was a lot of people. London was basically what India is today, an industrious capital that is simultaneously rich and poor.

[Helgoland]

And India today certainly is better than India during colonial times. Not good, but better.