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Author Topic: Sheb's European Megathread: Remove Feta!  (Read 1785818 times)

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Re: Sheb's European Politics Megathread
« Reply #9780 on: August 28, 2014, 06:06:10 am »

Well those last two are clearly of the same thing, but not at exactly the same time (guy on the right of the picture facing a different direction).
The armoured vehicle on the last two images appears to be BTR-D, a Soviet-era tracked APC which has been used both by Ukrainian and DNR forces.
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Re: Sheb's European Politics Megathread
« Reply #9781 on: August 28, 2014, 06:23:21 am »

The viewpoint in these photos is kind of interesting. It seems like it was made from inside the column itself.
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Re: Sheb's European Politics Megathread
« Reply #9782 on: August 28, 2014, 06:24:51 am »

I imagine the graphite which is used to slow neutrons is quite flammable.
It isn't actually. It hardly burns, and is unable of sustaining itself while on fire.

IIRC, the primary fire hazard in water cooled reactors is Zirconium oxidization.
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Re: Sheb's European Politics Megathread
« Reply #9783 on: August 28, 2014, 06:38:25 am »

I imagine the graphite which is used to slow neutrons is quite flammable.
It isn't actually. It hardly burns, and is unable of sustaining itself while on fire.

IIRC, the primary fire hazard in water cooled reactors is Zirconium oxidization.
I was under the impression that the Windscale fire was caused by graphite, but it seems that magnesium/lithium was the culprit.
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Re: Sheb's European Politics Megathread
« Reply #9784 on: August 28, 2014, 07:43:11 am »

The viewpoint in these photos is kind of interesting. It seems like it was made from inside the column itself.
And with military equipment - infrared goggles, or whatever they're called in English.
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I'm going to do the smart thing here and disengage. This isn't a hill I paticularly care to die on.

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Re: Sheb's European Politics Megathread
« Reply #9785 on: August 28, 2014, 07:46:07 am »

infrared goggles i've heard used, but you probably want night vision
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Re: Sheb's European Politics Megathread
« Reply #9786 on: August 28, 2014, 08:11:56 am »

Yup, that's the ticket.
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Re: Sheb's European Politics Megathread
« Reply #9787 on: August 28, 2014, 09:19:21 am »

This is not an invasion and Russian soldiers do not take part in fights, so what is causing deaths and injuries of Russian soldiers? Aliens, poisoned Polish apples, unhealthy burgers from McDonalds, or words of concern from western leaders?

http://tvrain.ru/articles/komitet_soldatskih_materej_sostavil_spisok_iz_400_ranenyh_i_ubityh_rossijskih_soldat-374625/

Care to answer this or just astroturf?
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Re: Sheb's European Politics Megathread
« Reply #9788 on: August 28, 2014, 09:22:52 am »

This is not an invasion and Russian soldiers do not take part in fights, so what is causing deaths and injuries of Russian soldiers? Aliens, poisoned Polish apples, unhealthy burgers from McDonalds, or words of concern from western leaders?

http://tvrain.ru/articles/komitet_soldatskih_materej_sostavil_spisok_iz_400_ranenyh_i_ubityh_rossijskih_soldat-374625/

Care to answer this or just astroturf?
You keep using that term. I don't think it means what you think it means.
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Re: Sheb's European Politics Megathread
« Reply #9789 on: August 28, 2014, 09:23:49 am »

care to bother reading that sergarr already said that it's ukrainian bullets responsible for the soldiers deaths

Also Ukrainian bullets are causing this obviously, but if we never admit that then it's like nothing is happening! :D

here i'll quote it for you

are you going to bring anything into the discussion or are you just keep on whining about nonexistent astroturfing
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Re: Sheb's European Politics Megathread
« Reply #9790 on: August 28, 2014, 09:24:21 am »

Creating a false arguement to distract. I know exactly what it is. I'd still like to know how Russian soldiers are dying in Ukraine if Russia hasn't invaded. Specifically from the people who are diehard supporters of this invasion.
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Re: Sheb's European Politics Megathread
« Reply #9791 on: August 28, 2014, 09:26:13 am »

According to wikipedia astroturfing is :" masking the sponsors of a message or organization (e.g. political, advertising, religious or public relations) to make it appear as though it originates from and is supported by grassroots participant(s)"
So Russia astroturfed the invasion of ukraine by making it look like "green men".
I don't see any other astroturfing in here.
I think the term you're looking for is strawman.
Bringing up entirely implausible scenarios that can easily be shot down to stifle argument and discussion.
 
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Re: Sheb's European Politics Megathread
« Reply #9792 on: August 28, 2014, 09:28:26 am »

Only if they're being paid by the Russian government to post messages with fake ID's pretending to be regular Bay12'ers.

"Astroturf" doesn't mean "someone who disagrees with me".

> Russia hasn't invaded

> diehard supporters of this invasion.

If someone is skeptical that an invasion is going on, that does not make them "diehard supporters of this invasion" by any means. Irrational skeptic, yes. But not a supporter of something they don't believe in.

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Re: Sheb's European Politics Megathread
« Reply #9793 on: August 28, 2014, 09:30:46 am »

http://www.theguardian.com/environment/georgemonbiot/2011/feb/23/need-to-protect-internet-from-astroturfing

AKA a practice that China, Russia, and organizations take to play public opinion up on the internet. Or to simply drown out the real issues. Once again, how are there Russian soldiers dying in Ukraine if the federation isn't invading them? Accidental mortar strikes? If so, shouldn't the Kremlin be raging, threatening to invade Ukraine for unjustly killing her soldiers? [Just kidding, the Kremlinites don't care about their cannon fodder]
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Re: Sheb's European Politics Megathread
« Reply #9794 on: August 28, 2014, 09:31:37 am »

So are you saying anyone on Bay12 who disagrees with you is in the pay of the Russians?

And you actually believe the USA doesn't Astro-turf?
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