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Re: Sheb's European Politics Megathread
« Reply #5190 on: May 10, 2014, 06:07:21 pm »

Oh, but in some countries it does get worse the whiter you are. In the U.S.:
http://www.solargeneral.com/jeffs-archive/primer/the-color-of-crime/


South Africa:
http://violenceagainstwhites.wordpress.com/category/south-africa/
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Re: Sheb's European Politics Megathread
« Reply #5192 on: May 10, 2014, 06:11:21 pm »

So... Your sources are a proudly White Nationalist (you know, racists and Nazis, and for once not hyperbole) website calling themselves "The Most Controversial, Censored and Forbidden Web Site in the World", and a wordpress website with a banner straight out of Geo-cities specifically about violence against white people.

Hrm.
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Re: Sheb's European Politics Megathread
« Reply #5193 on: May 10, 2014, 06:25:05 pm »

As to the "Most Controversial, Censored and Forbidden Web Site in the World" It does sound rather ridiculous. However, I have heard those figures elsewhere. If you can find contradictory figures, I would more than happily amend my thinking if they seem reasonable enough.

As for the South Africa link, LordSlowpoke quite rightly put up a better link, one that was founded by Dr. Stanton.

Also, here's an alternative link to the USA one:
http://www.examiner.com/article/federal-statistics-of-black-on-white-violence-with-links-and-mathematical-extrapolation-formulas
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Re: Sheb's European Politics Megathread
« Reply #5194 on: May 10, 2014, 07:01:51 pm »

I was more bothered by it being an avowed White Nationalist (Again, actually racist) group than the hyperbole of the subtitle.
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Re: Sheb's European Politics Megathread
« Reply #5195 on: May 10, 2014, 07:05:08 pm »

Sure, I understand that.

But I was more looking at the facts, which to me seemed backed up. And further search has shown they are. Still, I get where you're coming from.
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Re: Sheb's European Politics Megathread
« Reply #5196 on: May 10, 2014, 09:12:21 pm »

And regardless, none of those are European.
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Re: Sheb's European Politics Megathread
« Reply #5197 on: May 11, 2014, 04:56:39 am »

No. Because it doesn't really happen quite the same in Europe.

I guess racism must be different here than it is in America.
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Re: Sheb's European Politics Megathread
« Reply #5198 on: May 11, 2014, 05:37:43 am »

You were the one arguing "it gets worse the whiter you are", not me, dude.
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Re: Sheb's European Politics Megathread
« Reply #5199 on: May 11, 2014, 05:45:35 am »

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Re: Sheb's European Politics Megathread
« Reply #5200 on: May 11, 2014, 05:50:46 am »

Are there any outside observers? A German newspaper claimed these huge crowds form because of the low number of polling places, but that doesn't necessarily mean anything.

@Racism: The thing is that there's much fewer black people in Europe than in the US. While we do have white-vs-black racism, it's not a huge issue - simply because of the numbers (at least in Germany; it might be different in France and other countries with African immigration). Racism here usually goes against the major immigrant groups, regardless of color: In Germany, that's Arabs and the Turkish (and, to a lesser degree, Slavs - Russians and South-East Europeans).
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Re: Sheb's European Politics Megathread
« Reply #5201 on: May 11, 2014, 05:53:39 am »

Are there any outside observers? A German newspaper claimed these huge crowds form because of the low number of polling places, but that doesn't necessarily mean anything.
It's not clear if there are any observers there or not, but obviously, there are no observers from major Western organizations like OSCE and the like, because they don't recognize it.
Russian media claims that there are queues because of high voter turnout.
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Re: Sheb's European Politics Megathread
« Reply #5202 on: May 11, 2014, 08:18:46 am »

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Re: Sheb's European Politics Megathread
« Reply #5203 on: May 11, 2014, 08:59:28 am »

Are there any outside observers? A German newspaper claimed these huge crowds form because of the low number of polling places, but that doesn't necessarily mean anything.
It's not clear if there are any observers there or not, but obviously, there are no observers from major Western organizations like OSCE and the like, because they don't recognize it.
Russian media claims that there are queues because of high voter turnout.

It could be a combination of high voter turnout and fewer voting places. Lots of people going to one polling place could give the appearance of high voter turnout.

Lets just hope the number doesn't come out an absurd number like 95%. I don't know what the demographics in Donetisk and Slavyansk are though.

From the images, that IS a lot of people and I could see something like this as having high voter turnout. However, because of Russias history of rigging polls, theres the question of just how valid it actually is.

Edit: According to wiki, Donetsk City muncipality is roughly half ethnic Russian and half ethnic Ukrainian with the rest being various other ethnicities. The wiki page for Slavyansk doesn't have census info, but I'd imagine it to be similar to Donetsk.
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Re: Sheb's European Politics Megathread
« Reply #5204 on: May 11, 2014, 11:00:04 am »

The onus is on the sceptic, not the believer, Scriver.
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