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[10ebbor10]

The full name is still  the Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei

[MetalSlimeHunt]

The Nazis could be considered socialist if you squint really hard, in the sense that they were anti-corporate far-right populists.

[misko27]

They were socialist (although communist is a closer word; there is no way they would use it in their name) in the sense they wanted a single state government to be in control, stripping the private sector of the means of production and commerce, and the opposition of any power; the consolidation of power to the state.

Where they are different is what they do with that power. Whereas a communist government would work (or at least should work) for the equality of all men, a Nazi one worked against it. It established and strengthened inequality, made it pervasive, worked to enforce it. The Nazis and those of a similar mind worked to establish and maintain their hierarchies: one race above another, one caste above another, one profession above another, and above all the state and it's rulers. What separates this from a simple corrupt dictatorship is how the system itself works to reward the above and punish those below. As opposed to there being supposed protections for those below, but the rule of law is too weak to affect those above, instead it simply doesn't apply to those above, or even supports it.

[Mictlantecuhtli]

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So basically your positions are... 'It's okay when we do it'?

Its very handy to snip out the posts when you're creating a false argument to fight. Let me help you:

I'd accept the theory that its a disgruntled immigrant tired of the hateful vitriol they've been spewing.

It's just nice to see the Swedes themselves not worried about it. [Just kidding, that's a dangerous precedent to set]

Dear lord I made the mistake of reading the comments on that article.

Please learn comprehension before acting like we're advocating bombing Fascists. I said the likely reason was due to their vitriol [and therefore disgruntled immigrants are most likely to violently oppose their deport-or-die advocation], and you, like a novice troll, turn that into a strawman. Despite me saying, clearly, that it's a dangerous precedent to set, ignoring bombings of any political group. But hey. Enjoy your rock solid logic there.

Typical. Just wondering if you haven't thought maybe your post was inane and useless.

I'm not even a goddamn liberal/conservative/moderate because I refuse to abide by party lines or ideology, so no need to place me in the 'us vs them' category of fallacious logic-blaming. I may be a prick but I'm not about to advocate bombing people for idiotic speech. Thanks.

[Sheb]

I'm going to disagree with you. The Nazis were all for fraternal utopia, they just didn't want those non-aryans to partake in it. Their name is pretty straigtforward: They believed in socialism for their nation, death or servitude for the rest.

[Yannanth]

rage out of nowhere

Woah, calm down. It's just how it appeared to me, your speech just seemed to let off the terrorists at best (because let's face it, it's politically motivated attacks aimed to silence them).

I'm going to disagree with you. The Nazis were all for fraternal utopia, they just didn't want those non-aryans to partake in it. Their name is pretty straigtforward: They believed in socialism for their nation, death or servitude for the rest.

To a certain extent, true. Still, most extremist movements are defined by their overriding ideology. Nazism called for the elimination or subjugation of everyone but the Aryans. Communism calls for complete deprivatisation of everything and equality.

Fascist economic policy (at least in Italy) was actually quite similar to what you'd call a socialist or social democratic government today, sans the helping ethnic minorities part. It was all about reining in the corporations and expanding the public sector. This is one of the reasons that thinking in terms of 'wings' causes one to seriously misunderstand a certain party's political positions; economic positions don't necessarily reflect social positions unless we're talking about extremist movements that have philosophies to go with them.

Personally, I've never liked either political parties or the people that are members of them. I find the very concept of parties disagreeable. It's not too different from supporting a caudillo, except that it's many instead of one.

[Digital Hellhound]

Equating fascist/Nazi evonomic policy with social democrat policies is ridiculous. Reining in the corporations? All real unions were banned. Fascist syndicates, fo example, certainly didn't look for higher wages and better conditions for them, but the exact opposite. The corporations got lucrative state-sponsored production deals and a compliant/slave workforce - sure, they lost some 'freedom', but they weren't being 'reined in' - the working left was.

[Guardian G.I.]

Russian lawmakers strive to remove the superiority of international law over Russian national legislation.

[Ukrainian Ranger]

Russian lawmakers strive to remove the superiority of international law over Russian national legislation.

Is it just me, or is Russia really, REALLY looking like a banana republic, now?

Nah. Back to USSR no more, no less

[10ebbor10]

Russian lawmakers strive to remove the superiority of international law over Russian national legislation.

Is it just me, or is Russia really, REALLY looking like a banana republic, now?

Nah. Back to USSR no more, no less

For all the evils the USSR had and did, it had better social security and QoL for many Russians.

[Ukrainian Ranger]

Russian lawmakers strive to remove the superiority of international law over Russian national legislation.

Is it just me, or is Russia really, REALLY looking like a banana republic, now?

Nah. Back to USSR no more, no less

For all the evils the USSR had and did, it had better social security and QoL for many Russians.

One who chooses social security over freedom and justice....

...gets something like that: (Warning, photo is not a pleasant sight)

Spoiler: Journalist is a very dangerous job in Ukraine (click to show/hide)

[Andrew425]

Russian lawmakers strive to remove the superiority of international law over Russian national legislation.

Is it just me, or is Russia really, REALLY looking like a banana republic, now?

Nah. Back to USSR no more, no less

For all the evils the USSR had and did, it had better social security and QoL for many Russians.

Isn't the sign of a sovereign nation the fact that it's laws are the supreme laws of the land?

[Ukrainian Ranger]

Then we have very few sovereign nations in the World. North Korea and others like that

Because other countries tend to limit their sovereignty with various  stuff like Human Rights Declaration, Geneva convention and so on

[LordSlowpoke]

Then we have very few sovereign nations in the World. North Korea and others like that

Because other countries tend to limit their sovereignty with various  stuff like Human Rights Declaration, Geneva convention and so on

Are you by chance claiming that BEST KOREA is not the most sovereign nation in the world? That all the other nations are not ran by little girls? What next, that they are not the number one exporter of The Glorious Leader's Glorious Ideology and all the other countries by chance have some sort of superior ideology to the one that The Glorious Leader implements in BEST KOREA?

Damn son, I can smell the imperialism from here.

[Loud Whispers]

Best Korea pls
You're so good you have your own thread, you don't need to invade the Europol thread