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LordSlowpoke

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Re: Sheb's European Politics Megathread
« Reply #2760 on: December 22, 2013, 03:35:37 pm »

Sweden's Democratic party is right-wing. Unless you're saying it was likely to be a religious-immigrant person, which I wouldn't doubt. They've been dickholes to everyone not of 'proper' Swedish heritage [aka white].

And the ones who got bombed this time are in fact the fringe extreme group.

oh.

critical reading failure. i thought it was the socialdemocrats.

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Re: Sheb's European Politics Megathread
« Reply #2761 on: December 23, 2013, 12:41:08 am »

On a side note, the person who spots the fault in the quoted line gets a cookie. All information is found in the article.
You didn't capitalise the 'K'
I think it's that he misspelled "nukular".
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Re: Sheb's European Politics Megathread
« Reply #2762 on: December 23, 2013, 11:29:27 am »

On a side note, the person who spots the fault in the quoted line gets a cookie. All information is found in the article.
You didn't capitalise the 'K'
I think it's that he misspelled "nukular".
Everyone knows it's "nucular".

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Re: Sheb's European Politics Megathread
« Reply #2763 on: December 23, 2013, 11:40:18 am »

Anyway, the point is that they're using an inconsistent comparison.

Ie, they're comparing that the government wants to build 50 nuclear power plants, with the fact that they're currently proposing construction at 5 different sites.

Actually, currently, there're already 12 power plants planned, over 5 different sites. So not ten times more reactors, but 5 times.
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Re: Sheb's European Politics Megathread
« Reply #2764 on: December 23, 2013, 09:28:21 pm »

in light of what's been said in this last page, this article is kind of interesting http://www.thelocal.se/20131213/foreign-born-swedes-join-anti-immigration-party

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Re: Sheb's European Politics Megathread
« Reply #2765 on: December 24, 2013, 09:57:42 am »

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Re: Sheb's European Politics Megathread
« Reply #2766 on: December 24, 2013, 11:03:17 am »

There's no "we".
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Re: Sheb's European Politics Megathread
« Reply #2767 on: December 24, 2013, 11:35:54 am »

And yeah, the "Sweden Democrats" are nothing but neonazies dressed up in suits.
I am annoyed when just any xenophobic(or even simply right)  party is called neonazies. Can you point at something that makes programmes and ideologies of Sweden Democrats and NSDAP similar?
They are against immigration is good, but that is not enough.  Can you list more similarities or are you just throwing words around without understanding their meaning?


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Re: Sheb's European Politics Megathread
« Reply #2768 on: December 24, 2013, 01:06:59 pm »

They were neonazis with shaved heads and bomber jackets in the 90's, - now they've suited up and tries to appear like acceptable human beings, but they're still the same scumbags underneath. That is why they are called neonazis.

As for similarities? Beyond the xenophobia? Extreme protectionalist nationalism and nationalistic protectionalism, social conservatism, homophobia, anti-semitism (doubly so when you realise Arabs are Semites too), rampant jingoism and war-romantising, and so on.
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Re: Sheb's European Politics Megathread
« Reply #2769 on: December 24, 2013, 01:16:07 pm »

As for similarities? Beyond the xenophobia? Extreme protectionalist nationalism and nationalistic protectionalism, social conservatism, homophobia, anti-semitism (doubly so when you realise Arabs are Semites too), rampant jingoism and war-romantising, and so on.
OK, they are radical nationalist party. NA is proved
Now I want to hear about the socialist part of their ideology. I want ZI
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Re: Sheb's European Politics Megathread
« Reply #2770 on: December 24, 2013, 01:24:26 pm »

What was socialist about the Nazis though? o_o

I'm honestly curious, I've never really figured out how they were at all socialist.
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Re: Sheb's European Politics Megathread
« Reply #2771 on: December 24, 2013, 01:25:02 pm »

Are you going to start arguing semantics over this whole thing? Because then you've already lost.
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Re: Sheb's European Politics Megathread
« Reply #2772 on: December 24, 2013, 01:26:53 pm »

Hitler moved away from socialism big-time, kept the name. It'd been much easier for everyone after if he'd just changed the name with the ideology, damnit.
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Re: Sheb's European Politics Megathread
« Reply #2773 on: December 24, 2013, 01:29:44 pm »

As for similarities? Beyond the xenophobia? Extreme protectionalist nationalism and nationalistic protectionalism, social conservatism, homophobia, anti-semitism (doubly so when you realise Arabs are Semites too), rampant jingoism and war-romantising, and so on.
OK, they are radical nationalist party. NA is proved
Now I want to hear about the socialist part of their ideology. I want ZI
Err.

"The full name of Adolf Hitler's party was Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei (National Socialist German Workers' Party). The shorthand Nazi was formed from the first two syllables of the German pronunciation of the word "national"" (wikipedia)
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Re: Sheb's European Politics Megathread
« Reply #2774 on: December 24, 2013, 01:56:32 pm »

Yeah claiming the Nazis were socialist is like claiming the Communist Party in China is communist. They have it in their name but that doesn't mean they are that.
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