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[pisskop]

and ptw

[10ebbor10]

Oh fun, Politician battle.

[Svarte Troner]

Spoiler: Before this get's out of hand... (click to show/hide)

[Sheb]

Still got a US flag under the saddle.

Anyway, can you guys stop with the pictures?

So what do you guys think about the "Horsemeat standard"? What's irking me is that they're throwing all that perfectly good food away. Horse meat is tasty man.

[Dutchling]

People shouldn't sell horsemeat without saying it's horsemeat. Except if it's fastfood, as that's not even remotely close to actual meat anyway, so they might as well put horsemeat in there for all I care.

[Myrkky100]

Fer Chrissakes, I read the morning news, it just makes me angry, I come over to the forums to read something funny for a change and find a thread full of pictures of the same stupid bastards who were in the news...

Anyway, on the horse meat thing, it would make sense if people were mad that they were being conned by food manufacturers who promised beef and delivered horse. But even though tests show there is nothing as such wrong with the meat, no left-over antibiotics or hormones, people are still acting as if this was a crisis comparable to when that babymilk formula was laced with poison in China.

[Reelya]

You guys should do what the Japanese did.  Threaten the independence of your central bank until they stop being morons.  We'd all be much better off for it.

Japan: An example of success in interventionism to be emulated.

Gonna have to admit, that's a new one.

Japan may have high debts, but they have the third highest national wealth per capita of any country in the world, their spending supports that. You have to factor in their absolutely humongous private wealth.

As an example, what was the last time you heard of a foreign corporation buying out a Japanese company? It's not very common. If they were really that weak, people would be buying out their asset left, right and center.

[Loud Whispers]

Fer Chrissakes, I read the morning news, it just makes me angry, I come over to the forums to read something funny for a change and find a thread full of pictures of the same stupid bastards who were in the news...

Blair and Putin? Horse meat? Velociraptor?

[scriver]

Still got a US flag under the saddle.

Anyway, can you guys stop with the pictures?

So what do you guys think about the "Horsemeat standard"? What's irking me is that they're throwing all that perfectly good food away. Horse meat is tasty man.

The point is that it isn't perfectly good. One of the main reasons horse is so big on the black markets is because so much of it is medicated to the point of not being permitted to be sold by EU standards (which are, you know, really low).

Well, there hasn't been any traces of it yet from what I heard, but still, there was a reason people were worried.

[MonkeyHead]

The BBC are reporting that Phenalbutazone has been found in some horse meat that made its way into the food chain in France, but at levels low enough to be harmless. I am not against the eating of horse, but if I buy beef, I expect beef. The potential for chemicals/drugs to be in it that are not for human consumption at dangerous levels is a minor worry too. BBC radio is hinting at "the Romanian Mafia" as the suppliers of cheap "meat" to a wide range of food companies, who have taken the reduced price offer, apparently not knowing of the horsemeat content.

[Owlbread]

There was also a fair bit of pork in beef products produced at a certain meat processing plant in Shettleston in Glasgow. We do have a growing Muslim community in Scotland who may be distressed at this, although I'm not sure if they'd buy meat like that anyway. I have no moral qualms about eating horse meat or dog meat - why is a horse's life worth more than a cow's? But as MonkeyHead said it's the principle - if you buy beef, you expect beef, and if something like horsemeat could contaminate the meat to the degree we've been hearing about, what else is in it?

[Loud Whispers]

nooooooooooooooo
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

YOU CAN TAKE OUR LIVES BUT YOU WILL NEVER TAKE OUR TERABYTES

[Dutchling]

Pornland
Where is this place!?

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

[Owlbread]

If the conservatives even contemplate this they'll be shat on with greater gusto than a porcelain bowl. Furthermore, if labour even contemplate it (as is their want with the whole health and safety thing) that'll just remind everyone of how utterly dreadful the labour party is. It's a toxic policy, like warmongering.

[10ebbor10]

And another thing.

They found a pretty large natural gas field for the coast of Greek Cyprus.* Now it turns out that the best way to export the gas is a pipeline to Turkey. For geopolitical reasons, this is obviously not going to happen.** So, they're planning to construct an LPG terminal.

Unfortunately, Turkey doesn't agree with that, as it would mean that they'd loose their leverage on the other countries in the region, which also have natural gas reserves.(And who would otherwise be forced to export through Turkey). So Turkish warships are currently patrolling the Eastern mediterrean, though it's rather unlikely that they'll deny Cyprus acces to their own national waters. Pressure of the EU and NAVO will most likely be enough to limit things to intimidation.

On another note, this isn't the first of those politics. Turkey is/has also constructed several dams to limit water flow to other countries in the region. 

*Cyprus is divided in 2 parts ever since Turkey invaded it in the seventies in order to protect Turkish immigrants living there
**Cyprus is facing a severe budget crisis, so not exploiting the gas is not an option.