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Re: Sheb's European Politics Megathread
« Reply #6720 on: June 17, 2014, 08:26:31 am »

Urgh. I hate people who talk about leaving Russia. It's so mainstream among the current generation D:

And if you think that Russia is the worst there is... well just look at what Europe did to Libya.


In other news heavy criticism is being leveled at Tony Blair at the moment for his actions in Iraq and also for the fact that he is now blaming the collapse on the West for not intervening in Syria. The Daily Mail is now calling him "Crusader Blair" or something.

I'm fine with this, Blair deserves everything he gets and more, the problem is that he seems to have become the fall guy for the rest of the Labour Party and most of the British political establishment that supported him in Iraq. I don't hear enough criticism being leveled at William Hague for his support of the Iraq war. I even heard old John Prescott laying all the blame on Blair recently, despite the fact that he was Deputy Prime Minister. There's Scottish Labour MPs coming up to Scotland telling us we're "better together" and "stronger militarily" with a "seat at the top table" and "punching above our weight" and all that utter, utter bollocks, grinning for the cameras despite the fact that they voted for the Iraq War. Whenever they hear the argument "independence would keep us out of more illegal wars like Iraq", they then have the cheek to tell us it's "not relevant" to the independence debate. The Iraq War was what politicised me and convinced me more than anything that independence was the answer.
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Re: Sheb's European Politics Megathread
« Reply #6721 on: June 17, 2014, 08:46:31 am »

You know what, I won't hold the Iraq war against politicians who have since admitted it was a mistake, admitted that they were wrong to vote as such. This isn't something we should discourage in politics. Tony Blair's stubborn refusal to admit he led a country into a destructive and illegal war that has caused even less stability over 10 years later is the kind of attitude we encourage if we don't allow politicians to occasionally admit that they were wrong.

I don't get how people can trust or want to invest any power in someone who won't admit fallibility, I don't get how they can not want to hear an acknowledgement of past mistakes from someone. If you don't allow for such things, they'll just march you off a cliff because they refuse to admit they started down a path with a cliff on it.
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« Reply #6722 on: June 17, 2014, 08:48:30 am »

The problem with guys like Hague is that they still believe they did the right thing. They refuse to admit voting in favour of it was a mistake.
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« Reply #6723 on: June 17, 2014, 08:49:58 am »

Roads are pretty expensive and inconvenient to build already, and they take a lot of wear and tear, so it seems kinda impractical to build them out of expensive technology. Plus, you then need to add wiring infrastructure to your roads. That might not be too much of a problem in richer parts of Europe, but here that would be a cable thief's dream.
IIRC the wires are built into the "tiles"

Don't think they'd do very well in Belgium.
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I mean, traffic jams are a constant thing in Belgium, so...
Didn't even think of that :v
But yeah, traffic jams are constant.
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« Reply #6724 on: June 17, 2014, 09:10:33 am »

Nope, of course nope, I am not a suicidal.
But I gonna leave this country as soon as possible for them to stop getting my tax money from me.
Urgh. I hate people who talk about leaving Russia. It's so mainstream among the current generation D:

And if you think that Russia is the worst there is... well just look at what Europe did to Libya.
I hear that, and my first thought is "Well, maybe Russia should stop sucking so much that so many people want to leave?"
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« Reply #6725 on: June 17, 2014, 10:24:40 am »

Roads are pretty expensive and inconvenient to build already, and they take a lot of wear and tear, so it seems kinda impractical to build them out of expensive technology. Plus, you then need to add wiring infrastructure to your roads. That might not be too much of a problem in richer parts of Europe, but here that would be a cable thief's dream.

Didn't think about that, but their wiring trenches on the side would be a cable thief's wet dream indeed.
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« Reply #6726 on: June 17, 2014, 10:25:43 am »

Or you know, you can steal the entire road.
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« Reply #6727 on: June 17, 2014, 10:27:31 am »

It's Belgium, not Italy!
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« Reply #6728 on: June 17, 2014, 10:39:19 am »

Just going to drop this quality ranking here.

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« Reply #6729 on: June 17, 2014, 10:40:09 am »

USA! USA!
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« Reply #6730 on: June 17, 2014, 10:41:25 am »

USA has all the biggest numbers! That means they're winning, right?
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« Reply #6731 on: June 17, 2014, 10:42:17 am »

France and the UK don't make any sense. How can France have so many issues but number one lives, while the UK is number one in most qualities but has the second least healthy lives?
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Re: Sheb's European Politics Megathread
« Reply #6732 on: June 17, 2014, 10:44:07 am »

USA! USA!

Your avatar was the US flag. Very appropriate.
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« Reply #6733 on: June 17, 2014, 10:44:16 am »

France and the UK don't make any sense. How can France have so many issues but number one lives, while the UK is number one in most qualities but has the second least healthy lives?
I don't know, maybe that's got to do with other factors besides health care, like pollution, nutrition, other risk factors etc.
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« Reply #6734 on: June 17, 2014, 10:46:02 am »

France and the UK don't make any sense. How can France have so many issues but number one lives, while the UK is number one in most qualities but has the second least healthy lives?
I don't know, maybe that's got to do with other factors besides health care, like pollution, nutrition, other risk factors etc.
Eating the most baguettes per capita doesn't cure cancer!

....Does it?
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