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[Sheb]

The fun part is that she is a progressive, left-wing green who wants to gets more help for refugees. 

[smjjames]

Not sure if the 'radicals' Putin is referring to here are the pro-Russians or Ukraine. Can anybody shed a bit of light on this? Not sure what the threats are specifically, like blowing up the pipeline, or just shutting it off and destroying the valve control. Though I'm sure most of it is underground, so blowing it up wouldn't be easy.

It would be ironic if the pro-Russian 'radicals' were the ones who disrupted the gas lines.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/05/24/us-ukraine-crisis-putin-gas-idUSBREA4N04Y20140524

[XXSockXX]

Not sure if the 'radicals' Putin is referring to here are the pro-Russians or Ukraine. Can anybody shed a bit of light on this? Not sure what the threats are specifically, like blowing up the pipeline, or just shutting it off and destroying the valve control. Though I'm sure most of it is underground, so blowing it up wouldn't be easy.

It would be ironic if the pro-Russian 'radicals' were the ones who disrupted the gas lines.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/05/24/us-ukraine-crisis-putin-gas-idUSBREA4N04Y20140524

I'm pretty sure he is talking about pro-Ukraine radicals, ie the Right Sector. I doubt there is any indication anybody is really considering doing such a thing, as there is absolutely no incentive for that currently. I guess it's keeping up the narrative that Ukrainian radicals are a threat, while other signals point to Russia withdrawing a bit from the conflict.

[Guardian G.I.]

Meanwhile in Ukraine:

The commander of pro-Russian forces in Slavyansk, Igor Strelkov, has ordered all civilians to evacuate the city due to the threat of an Ukrainian assault, according to sources belonging to pro-Russian forces.

According to vesti.ua, representatives of People's Republics of Donetsk and Luhansk have signed a treaty creating a united federal state of Novorossiya, with territorial claims on other regions of South-East Ukraine.

Spoiler: Aftermath of Ukrainian shelling of Slavyansk (click to show/hide)

Spoiler: Ukrainian vehicles allegedly destroyed by pro-Russian forces near Rubezhnoe (click to show/hide)

[smjjames]

Novorossiya, does that mean New Russia? That's what it looks and sounds like to me anyway. I would use google translate, but it'll just butcher it to something else entirely.

The two groups making territorial claims isn't a good sign, though not exactly unexpected.

Edit: Went and tried google translate and it just outputs how it's spelled in english.... which is exactly as it's spelled here.

[TD1]

I see no reason to add to this non-beneficial members from other countries. As for those in the country who increase,

I would say that EU migrants are most certainly useful. Since they fill jobs that otherwise wouldn't be filled.

The agency supplying this farm with labour has had hundreds of Eastern Europeans pass through its doors in the last two years - and all of three English people.

But there's little appetite for taking one of those vegetable-picking jobs of up to £7-an-hour. One group of lads:


"No mate I'd prefer to sign-on than do that."

"I don't want to work in like no cornfield."

"I don't want to work with a load of foreigners."

All right? Did I not just say that immigration should be mutually beneficial? This is an example of that.

Yeah, but "UKIP loses 8% of support" would be just as true and in tune with the anti UKIP feel of a section of our media. Instead even the outlets that hate UKIP are calling it some kind of new era.

I for one do not welcome our slightly racist, hypocritical, xenophobic middle Englander overlords.

Good news: Democracy means the chance of overlords is nearly nil. Unless, of course, you wish to elect them as overlords

Anyway, to sum and end this argument on UKIP, such an arrangement should benefit both parties. There are a number who come in and don't help towards anything. There are criminal aspects who come in. There are those who come in with the intention of working with the country, of being a member of the country, and who are not criminal. Of these, I think I know which group should be chosen for. So, to say again, such a policy isn't racist; just common sense.

[Guardian G.I.]

Novorossiya, does that mean New Russia? That's what it looks and sounds like to me anyway.

It's named after an Imperial Russian province encompassing territories of modern Southern Ukraine.

Also, reportedly this is the flag of today's Novorossiya:

[smjjames]

Novorossiya, does that mean New Russia? That's what it looks and sounds like to me anyway.

It's named after an Imperial Russian province encompassing territories of modern Southern Ukraine.

I admit I COULD have wiki'd it, but didn't know it was an Imperial Russian province in the first place. I wonder how much territory they are claiming because the historical province goes all the way to Odessa.

@the flag: Uh, Confederate flag without the stars. I don't suppose they could be more creative? Though one could also say it's Norways flag at a diagonal.

[scriver]

It's a Scottish flag turned inside out with the blood of the imexploded scotchmen all around it!!1!

[Sergarr]

Fun fact: Novorossiya = Novaya Russia.

If you can figure out the reference, cudos to you.

[LordSlowpoke]

empire earth innit

[Sergarr]

Goddammit D:

At least that game had a masterful soundtrack.

[LordSlowpoke]

don't worry i'm an useless piece of shit who understands all these references and makes references people can't wait to not unde

* LordSlowpoke falls down stairs

[Ukrainian Ranger]

It's a Scottish flag turned inside out with the blood of the imexploded scotchmen all around it!!1!

I think it is based on the flag of Russian Navy :

Somewhat symbolic, Russian navy started that shit  in Crimea... add blood to it and everything fits

Also, Russian navy is anti-Scotland... That must mean something

[Sergarr]

Also, Russian navy is anti-Scotland

Wut. Scotland doesn't even have a navy. Yet.