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[Scoops Novel]

Damn it. How long until cases like this go on trial?

[MonkeyHead]

This will probably be pushed through quite quickly using some emergency power, with an effort made to keep it out of the media.

[Owlbread]

Too late for that, I'm afraid. The seeds of chaos have been sewn.

[FearfulJesuit]

I expect the authorities are rushing to put cops on the street before that riot starts?

[10ebbor10]

I expect the authorities are rushing to put cops on the street before that riot starts?

Or getting them of the street. UK cops don't get guns.

[Owlbread]

Or getting them of the street. UK cops don't get guns.

Well I wonder how the suspects were shot and put into a critical condition then? I didn't know concealed carry was commonplace in Woolwich. I shall cease sarcasm, it is uncouth. There are actually quite a few armed policemen, they're part of special squads. Authorised firearms officers, armed response teams etc. We'd never use them in a riot of course. The riot police are probably being mobilised right now.

[Leafsnail]

If people call the police reporting armed criminals the police will respond with armed officers.

[shadenight123]

The thing is that I don't know if all muslims are like that or not.

...

Now, stop and re-read my sentence.

Realized why I wrote it?

I don't know. The newspaper are so keen on giving us the details of yet another Muslim related act of terrorism, that it makes me sick. Just yesterday I was speaking to a friend of how we shouldn't judge Muslims depending on what a few terrorists did. Today I find myself looking at news speaking of Terrorist acts against people for seemingly no other reason than chaos and I'm like...was I right?

I would love to give the benefit of doubt to people.
I really would.
The problem is that News aren't making it easy. All I hear is how 'Muslim terrorist did this' 'muslim terrorist did that'. I never hear of 'Christian terrorist does this' or 'Jewish terrorist does that'. Maybe it's a form of censorship made by my state, maybe it's just that they don't 'sell' as well as the rest...

But all I have at the moment, all I know at the moment, is that Muslims are Terrorists.

It's an extremely bad vibe, and I hope muslims realize this. I can't look at another dark-skinned man without mentally asking myself 'is he muslim?' and 'is he going to blow up any second now and kill me?' and that brings me to thing about Purges and Genocide.

I'm not an extremist, I know the thought is wrong.

But in the end, isn't fear justifiable? And if we should just live with a smile, saying 'not all are bad', are we ready to risk the smiles of others?

I think the problem is that we can't know for sure the Cultural Level of an individual.
The highest the Cultural Level, the less the chance said individual turns out to be a mad-man/terrorist. The question is...how do we measure culture? How do we measure the 'degree' of 'humanity' an individual SHOULD possess? The degree of 'I'm not going to blow myself up' or 'I'm not going to cleave a man'?

We cannot.

And so we end up with listening to news claiming 'Muslim terrorist did this' and we end up associating muslims to terrorism.

Sure, some people will understand that they're people, just like the rest of us, but the question that freezes the soul is...for how long will we keep our wits?
When fear will grip your soul, when the next one will blow up your family, will cleave the head of your wife, son, mother...will you still think like this?

And I know I won't, and that's sad, I admit it, but I won't. I can give a chance to people as long as it isn't my family paying the price, but then again I'm not an Hypocrite at least. I'm being fairly honest with this post: I don't care. I might distrust, but I won't hate immediately.

The question however remains...

For how long will my reason hold against fear?

Because the guys might just have been two psychopaths, not muslims and perfectly 'sane' till that moment of folly...but by how the news is portrayed...

It's just extra muslim hate, isn't it?
Or is it just another drop in the cup of fear?

[Lovechild]

The thing is that I don't know if all muslims are like that or not.

Don't worry, I knew a Muslim once, he wasn't like that.

[Owlbread]

The thing is that I don't know if all muslims are like that or not.

Don't worry, I knew a Muslim once, he wasn't like that.

My first friend in primary school when I was about 5 was Muslim (I think, I didn't know at the time because it didn't matter) and he was a nice fellow.

[Dutchling]

The only (in my year of ~200 people) black guy in my Christian high school was Muslim and everybody loved that guy

[Scoops Novel]

When you distrust everyone equally (including individual risk), you'll find that preferable to any one group, if you need to deal with it somehow.

[Dutchling]

Anyway, are we gonna put all Muslims in camps now?

[shadenight123]

No. The point I was trying to make is that unfortunately, it's sad having to use Novel method of 'equally distrust everyone until proven otherwise'.
And News don't make things easier, because from what I can remember except for the Oslo case, the large majority of attacks have been done by muslims or 'non-europeans'.
Which either just increases the fear and the hate of the foreigner or is generally a censorship of the rest of the population's crimes.

I actually think an american could get away with murder in any european country by simply framing a muslim now, because the News would outright give the fault before even taking into account the proofs.

[Myrkky100]

Anyway, are we gonna put all Muslims in camps now?

That's the funny thing, groups like BNP, Swedish Democrats, True Finns etc. are going to use this to scream about wanting to stop immigration to everyone within earshot, but they really can't propose any practical steps to counter radicalism among second and third generation immigrants, which is what I suspect this is really about. Generally the discourse is just going to get nastier and more overtly racist.