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Re: Sheb's European Politics Megathread
« Reply #4710 on: April 15, 2014, 02:04:51 pm »

There is a sovereign state called the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. You would understand this as "Britain".

It has a number of much smaller territories under its protection, relying on the UK for defence and international representation, but they have almost complete autonomy and act like little countries. Those are the "overseas territories" and include places like the Falkland Islands and the Isle of Man, as well as barely-inhabited Antarctic places like the South Sandwich Islands.

Great Britain refers to the largest island in the British Isles before Ireland. In the island of Great Britain there are three countries - England, Scotland and Wales. Cornwall is another country on the island of Great Britain but it has no representation and is treated like a county of England.

When Scotland becomes an independent state it will leave the United Kingdom of Great Britain of Northern Ireland, though it will retain the same Monarch like many Commonwealth states. It just won't be a part of that politically-united "Kingdom" called the UK. The "United" part refers to political union i.e. a merging of borders and such. The countries that are "united" are reduced to province-like entities, "countries" only in a historical and barely legal sense.

Entities like the Overseas Territories are not part of the UK, but are British subjects.

The rump-state left over from the secession, commonly called the rUK or "rest of the UK" would no longer be the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. "Great Britain" includes Scotland, after all. We will always be British for the reason that we are native to the island called Britain. It is a geographic term.

This means that the UK would have to become something like the "United Kingdom of England, Wales and Northern Ireland" and maybe Cornwall would arrive at a later date.
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Re: Sheb's European Politics Megathread
« Reply #4711 on: April 15, 2014, 02:15:54 pm »

United Kingdom of Everything But Scotland.
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Re: Sheb's European Politics Megathread
« Reply #4712 on: April 15, 2014, 02:18:16 pm »

Basically, but the overseas territories like the Isle of Man (which is actually a very tiny "nation" or country, not just a colony like the Falklands) will still remain outwith the UK. They'll still be British though. "Britain" is like the unofficial term for the whole mess. Great Britain is the island, "Britain" refers to everything.
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Re: Sheb's European Politics Megathread
« Reply #4713 on: April 15, 2014, 02:19:16 pm »

I actually did mean everything, but I guess you killed that just now.
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Re: Sheb's European Politics Megathread
« Reply #4714 on: April 15, 2014, 02:22:21 pm »

Right now a set of islands with 3000 people has more autonomy than Scotland, a country roughly the size of Finland.
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Re: Sheb's European Politics Megathread
« Reply #4715 on: April 15, 2014, 02:22:58 pm »

Right now a set of islands with 3000 people has more autonomy than Scotland.

That might be because it's a set of islands wih 3000 people.
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« Reply #4716 on: April 15, 2014, 02:23:45 pm »

That might be because it's a set of islands wih 3000 people.

I don't quite understand, my good sir.
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Re: Sheb's European Politics Megathread
« Reply #4717 on: April 15, 2014, 02:25:54 pm »

That might be because it's a set of islands wih 3000 people.

I don't quite understand, my good sir.

Nobody cares for a set of islands with 3000 people, that's what he meant.

Unless there is oil, of course.
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Re: Sheb's European Politics Megathread
« Reply #4718 on: April 15, 2014, 02:28:22 pm »

That might be because it's a set of islands wih 3000 people.

I don't quite understand, my good sir.

Nobody cares for a set of islands with 3000 people, that's what he meant.

Unless there is oil, of course.

Yup.
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Re: Sheb's European Politics Megathread
« Reply #4719 on: April 15, 2014, 02:31:34 pm »

Nobody cares for a set of islands with 3000 people, that's what he meant.
Unless there is oil, of course.
Or it's strategically important, like the Falklands and the Crimea.

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Re: Sheb's European Politics Megathread
« Reply #4720 on: April 15, 2014, 02:39:11 pm »

Nobody cares for a set of islands with 3000 people, that's what he meant.
Unless there is oil, of course.
Or it's strategically important, like the Falklands and the Crimea.

Exept Crimea has about 2.000.000 of people living there.
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Re: Sheb's European Politics Megathread
« Reply #4721 on: April 15, 2014, 02:40:56 pm »

Nobody cares for a set of islands with 3000 people, that's what he meant.
Unless there is oil, of course.
Or it's strategically important, like the Falklands and the Crimea.

Exept Crimea has about 2.000.000 of strategically important people living along a strategically important coastline there.

FTFY

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Re: Sheb's European Politics Megathread
« Reply #4722 on: April 15, 2014, 02:45:49 pm »

Nobody cares for a set of islands with 3000 people, that's what he meant.
Unless there is oil, of course.
Or it's strategically important, like the Falklands and the Crimea.

Exept Crimea has about 2.000.000 of strategically important people living along a strategically important coastline there.

FTFY

Yeah, like that.
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Re: Sheb's European Politics Megathread
« Reply #4723 on: April 15, 2014, 03:55:23 pm »

Ah, don't worry. America will liberate them all.
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Re: Sheb's European Politics Megathread
« Reply #4724 on: April 15, 2014, 04:04:25 pm »

Ah, don't worry. America will liberate them all.

America liberating everything it wants is so memetic I think this very yet sarcastic comment of mine is excessive.
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