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Ukrainian Ranger

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Re: Sheb's European Megathread: Remove Feta!
« Reply #19620 on: August 26, 2015, 11:45:56 am »

Losses is not something that is easy to count due to propaganda but why do you think that Russia is having less causalities than it had in Ichkeria?

Russian official figure for First Chechen War is 5,732 in 21 month war. It is ~250 per month.

Chechen army didn't have its own artillery\tanks\IFVs like Ukrainian Army.
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Re: Sheb's European Megathread: Remove Feta!
« Reply #19621 on: August 26, 2015, 11:47:07 am »

Weren't the numbers of troops involved much higher?
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« Reply #19622 on: August 26, 2015, 11:51:09 am »

Weren't the numbers of troops involved much higher?

Yes, and they were also all reported. How can Russia keep 2,000 deaths "secret"?
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« Reply #19623 on: August 26, 2015, 11:55:41 am »

How can Russia keep 2,000 deaths "secret"?
Sloppily it seems.
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Re: Sheb's European Megathread: Remove Feta!
« Reply #19624 on: August 26, 2015, 12:17:58 pm »

The validness of that "2000" number is in my opinion about on the same level as that of dozens of destroyed Russian columns by brave Ukrainian soldiers. No factual evidence, anyone can make this shit up.

And now, time for some actual information.
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Re: Sheb's European Megathread: Remove Feta!
« Reply #19625 on: August 26, 2015, 12:20:52 pm »

Luhansk, when... No idea.
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« Reply #19626 on: August 26, 2015, 12:25:27 pm »

Iraqi T-80s during the second Gulf War?
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« Reply #19627 on: August 26, 2015, 12:27:52 pm »

Weren't the numbers of troops involved much higher?

Yes, and they were also all reported. How can Russia keep 2,000 deaths "secret"?
http://gruz200.net/ubitye here is a Russian language site with a list of KIA Russian citizens. Each with links to social networks or some other proof. It has something like 500 names.


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« Reply #19628 on: August 26, 2015, 12:32:11 pm »

Luhansk, when... No idea.
August, 2014.

Remember when the Ukrainian army, before then slowly winning, has been routed in a span of two weeks? Apparently there were our T-90s there, like those one of the picture, and they've taken a part in dismantling UAF's offensive forces. Given that UAF have not managed to capture (even as a wreckage) a single one of them, it seems pretty obvious that we could've easily pressed the counter-attack further on, if not for political decisions aimed for "Minsk peace resolutions" and other crap that, as it was apparent to everyone who wasn't an idiot, wasn't going to work out.
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« Reply #19629 on: August 26, 2015, 12:55:56 pm »

Luhansk, when... No idea.
August, 2014.

Remember when the Ukrainian army, before then slowly winning, has been routed in a span of two weeks? Apparently there were our T-90s there, like those one of the picture, and they've taken a part in dismantling UAF's offensive forces. Given that UAF have not managed to capture (even as a wreckage) a single one of them, it seems pretty obvious that we could've easily pressed the counter-attack further on, if not for political decisions aimed for "Minsk peace resolutions" and other crap that, as it was apparent to everyone who wasn't an idiot, wasn't going to work out.
Well, then again, if they *were* captured, it would be kinda incriminating, wouldn't it?
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« Reply #19630 on: August 26, 2015, 03:37:24 pm »

Yeah.  I don't think the Ukrainians operate anything newer than the T-80 and T-84 series, so a captured T-90 would almost be a dead giveaway.  As for that image?  The answer was already given, but for the actual person responsible, it was a foolish tanker posting selfies to social media
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« Reply #19631 on: August 26, 2015, 03:46:24 pm »

Yeah.  I don't think the Ukrainians operate anything newer than the T-80 and T-84 series, so a captured T-90 would almost be a dead giveaway.  As for that image?  The answer was already given, but for the actual person responsible, it was a foolish tanker posting selfies to social media.

Good to know military discipline is keeping up with the times.
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« Reply #19632 on: August 26, 2015, 10:03:27 pm »

Hey, Ukranian Ranger, what do you think about the new laws in Ukraine about distancing from (erasing?) your Soviet past?
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« Reply #19633 on: August 27, 2015, 03:37:54 am »

25 years late
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« Reply #19634 on: August 27, 2015, 05:33:51 am »

I can't see that "People's Friendship Arch" lasting very long.
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