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Re: Sheb's European Megathread: Remove Feta!
« Reply #18480 on: July 07, 2015, 09:07:35 am »

Technically America is Britain because modern America developed from that

Technically like half of the world's countries are Britain because of seventeenth to nineteenth-century British imperialism.
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« Reply #18481 on: July 07, 2015, 09:10:31 am »

The sun never sets on Britain.
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Re: Sheb's European Megathread: Remove Feta!
« Reply #18482 on: July 07, 2015, 09:11:28 am »

Technically America is Britain because modern America developed from that
Technically like half of the world's countries are Britain because of British imperialism.
To certain extents; some can claim existences before Brits took over, notably a few former Sultanates and Kindgoms in Asia, and all the Brits did there was blob them together/change the flag.

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« Reply #18483 on: July 07, 2015, 09:30:03 am »

Which brings us to something I've been trying to figure out:

Once a Western country i.e. US, or a slightly earlier Britain takes over a country militarily or with military threat, due to a cruel dictatorship, resources worries, a really bad civil war, invasion, etc and there is no given political structure to take over (i.e. not when UN took Kuwait back for the Kuwaitis from Saddam), which seems to work best, out of:

-Colony, eventually releasing once it is strong enough?
-Pulling out after setting up a democratic system?
-Leaving troops there to keep peace for a local government you set up?
-Other options I missed?

And which is most moral?
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« Reply #18484 on: July 07, 2015, 09:34:16 am »

Which brings us to something I've been trying to figure out:

Once a Western country i.e. US, or a slightly earlier Britain takes over a country militarily or with military threat, due to a cruel dictatorship, resources worries, a really bad civil war, invasion, etc and there is no given political structure to take over (i.e. not when UN took Kuwait back for the Kuwaitis from Saddam), which seems to work best, out of:

-Colony, eventually releasing once it is strong enough?
-Pulling out after setting up a democratic system?
-Leaving troops there to keep peace for a local government you set up?
-Other options I missed?

And which is most moral?

Raise taxes on said colony.

Get caught up in a war with it.

Get tired, admit defeat, and then grant independence.

More seriously though:

Colony: That definetly wouldn't fly these days, especially when the tech level is equal. Sure, we have some territories or 'colonies', but they're all islands in the Pacific. Actually, we did do the 'make into a colony and release later when stronger' thing with the Phillippines.

Pulling out after setting up a democratic system: We tried to do that with Iraq and Afghanistan. Afghanistan was somewhat successful (not without it's problems), but I'm sure I don't have to explain Iraq.

Leaving troops to keep peace: While we did that in Afghanistan and Iraq, it was for different reasons than the British Empire would have done it.

If anything, colony seems to work best.
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Re: Sheb's European Megathread: Remove Feta!
« Reply #18485 on: July 07, 2015, 09:39:30 am »

Option number two is a bad one. One does not simply make a country democratic over night.
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« Reply #18486 on: July 07, 2015, 09:46:21 am »

snip
snip again.
Quite, that seems to have worked best in many cases, though there are moral issues such as forcing your culture and population on the country.

Edited to actually make sense.
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« Reply #18487 on: July 07, 2015, 09:48:20 am »

Rename themselves Greatest Britain?
Rename themselves Pretty Good Britain, or Not Too Bad Britain. Or, my favourite, Halfway Decent Britain.
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« Reply #18488 on: July 07, 2015, 09:50:32 am »

snip

Quite, that seems to have worked best in many cases, though there are moral issues such as forcing your culture and population on the country.

Um, quote fail? I didn't actually say what you quoted, though I agree with you on the moral issues of forcing your culture and population on the country.
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« Reply #18489 on: July 07, 2015, 10:19:16 am »

Rename themselves Greatest Britain?
Rename themselves Pretty Good Britain, or Not Too Bad Britain. Or, my favourite, Halfway Decent Britain.
I'm fond of 'Quite all right Britain' myself.

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« Reply #18490 on: July 07, 2015, 10:22:45 am »

Sorry. I spent 5 minutes trying to figure out what had happened.

I wanted to delete your whole post and the quote from me and replace it with "snip" in the quote, but instead only did that to my post, and somehow typed mine up in your quote, not typing anything in my post. Fixing now, when my eyes have finished uncrossing.
Wait, did I just delete the last bit saying quote there? yes, I did. Damn.
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« Reply #18491 on: July 07, 2015, 10:39:15 am »

Rename themselves Greatest Britain?
Rename themselves Pretty Good Britain, or Not Too Bad Britain. Or, my favourite, Halfway Decent Britain.
I'm fond of 'Quite all right Britain' myself.

I think "Not quite well Britain" sums it up more accurately.
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« Reply #18492 on: July 07, 2015, 10:41:03 am »

Rename themselves Greatest Britain?
Rename themselves Pretty Good Britain, or Not Too Bad Britain. Or, my favourite, Halfway Decent Britain.
I'm fond of 'Quite all right Britain' myself.
I think "Not quite well Britain" sums it up more accurately.
'I swear we're not sinking Britain?'

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« Reply #18493 on: July 07, 2015, 10:48:10 am »

"We Can Still Rule the Waves From Beneath Them Britain?"
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« Reply #18494 on: July 07, 2015, 11:31:10 am »

"We're Playing The Long Game Britain"
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