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Re: Sheb's European Politics Megathread
« Reply #16320 on: May 07, 2015, 06:40:05 pm »

The BBC live feed claims the SNP are ahead of Labour in Renfrewshire East.

Could it be true that SLabour's leader will lose his seat? I certainly hope so.  :D
That's what happens when you snub someone you owe a great deal to. The open anti-Scottish sentiment over the past year or so has been unreal.
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« Reply #16321 on: May 07, 2015, 06:41:49 pm »

The BBC live feed claims the SNP are ahead of Labour in Renfrewshire East.

Could it be true that SLabour's leader will lose his seat? I certainly hope so.  :D
That's what happens when you snub someone you owe a great deal to. The open anti-Scottish sentiment over the past year or so has been unreal.

It's been rather remarkable really. The Westminster parties changed direction so fast after the referendum I'm surprised none of them got whiplash.
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Re: Sheb's European Politics Megathread
« Reply #16322 on: May 07, 2015, 06:42:07 pm »

At a casual glance, it seems UKIP would appeal well to fedora-wearing douchebags.


EDIT: What, you mean the major parties didn't actually follow through on their promise of DevoMax, free beer and magical Skittle unicorns for all Scots?
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Re: Sheb's European Politics Megathread
« Reply #16323 on: May 07, 2015, 06:45:47 pm »

Some are more trustworthy than others. For example, I'd trust the SNP to go improve the NHS more than I would the Tories.
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« Reply #16324 on: May 07, 2015, 06:46:52 pm »

EDIT: What, you mean the major parties didn't actually follow through on their promise of DevoMax, free beer and magical Skittle unicorns for all Scots?

I really wanted that unicorn.  :(

But the part that's been getting pointed out by Yes voters for a while now is how fast things went from 'Don't leave! We love you and want you to have a say in our lives!' to 'Scottish MPs? This is a travesty of untold scale!'
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« Reply #16325 on: May 07, 2015, 06:48:37 pm »

Yeah, but in the last days before the Scottish referendum, both the Tories and Labour were promising ridiculous things that most people knew they'd never actually deliver. What was shocking was how blatantly they didn't deliver. It wasn't "Oh, we introduced bills to do those things, but then they got stuck in committee and then you know...politics and rules of order and blah blah blah".

It was just "They didn't leave? Right! Back to business as normal then. Tallyho."
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« Reply #16326 on: May 07, 2015, 06:56:20 pm »

Apparently Farage has been heard saying 'God help us' and storming off on ITV.

Sounds promising. If whatever members of UKIP manage to become MPs don't even include their own leader I'll have myself a good laugh.
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« Reply #16327 on: May 07, 2015, 07:01:10 pm »

Justine Greening espousing the virtues of quality of life and social mobility, as a Conservative. I have to admit, I chuckled.
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« Reply #16328 on: May 07, 2015, 07:09:27 pm »

538 is still predicting that Labour+SNP could combine to eke out a very slim majority without even getting the Lib Dems on board.  They are predicting some reversion to the mean compared to the exit poll of course.

Edit: wait no, it's 326 for majority not 316 for majority.

Double Edit: does the UK recall elections if they dont successfully hold a vote of confidence for a prime minister?
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« Reply #16329 on: May 07, 2015, 07:18:31 pm »

I can't sleep. This is incredible. BBCis reporting a Labour member at the count in Bathgate was seen in tears telling the (ex)Labour MP "I just wish there was more we could have done".

I'm hearing rumours all of Glasgow has turned Yellow.
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Re: Sheb's European Politics Megathread
« Reply #16330 on: May 07, 2015, 07:21:02 pm »

So when does the campaign to reclaim Berwick upon Tweed start?  Or maybe you could put the "Scots" back in "Ulster Scots".
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« Reply #16331 on: May 07, 2015, 07:21:57 pm »

Double Edit: does the UK recall elections if they dont successfully hold a vote of confidence for a prime minister?

I was looking that up a few days ago and it's one of the bits where our lack of a formal constitution makes things murky.  :-\

Some of the sources I looked at said yes, others said that by parliamentary convention the opposition doesn't actually need a majority, it just needs the previous government to have lost it's majority in order to form a government but it can be dissolved if it fails to attain a majority.

Normally this wouldn't be a problem, but one of the reforms passed during the coalition changed the terms of government length. As I understand it once a government is formed now it's unable to be removed until it's completed it's term, which might allow for a minority government to form that can't actually do anything.

Not sure as to the validity of the latter statement, my education has been more to do with what the innards of crabs do than parliamentary convention and legal interpretation. Personally I suspect we'll default to holding a new election if we can't form some kind of government.
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Re: Sheb's European Politics Megathread
« Reply #16332 on: May 07, 2015, 07:24:59 pm »

Not sure as to the validity of the latter statement, my education has been more to do with what the innards of crabs do than parliamentary convention and legal interpretation.

Maryland and Scotland have more in common then I ever imagined!
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« Reply #16333 on: May 07, 2015, 07:26:55 pm »

So when does the campaign to reclaim Berwick upon Tweed start?  Or maybe you could put the "Scots" back in "Ulster Scots".

I've backed annexation of South Berwick for some time. We'll have to see about whether Lesser Scotia (Scotland) considers union with Greater Scotia (Ireland).
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Re: Sheb's European Politics Megathread
« Reply #16334 on: May 07, 2015, 07:34:15 pm »

You mean hibernia and pictland-scotiland?
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