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Re: Sheb's European Politics Megathread
« Reply #13980 on: January 08, 2015, 04:51:17 pm »

Protip: Drawing Muhammad isn't attacking Islam. Your own sin isn't someone else's concern to kill you over.
Also drawing any person falls under the same sin, so yeah.
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Re: Sheb's European Politics Megathread
« Reply #13981 on: January 08, 2015, 04:55:30 pm »

True, but this:

Someone needs to make an insulting pornographic film about Mohammad that depicts him as having a micropenis and his wives resorting to lesbianism as a result.

Is not simply "drawing Muhammad".
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Re: Sheb's European Politics Megathread
« Reply #13982 on: January 08, 2015, 04:59:17 pm »

People died over, essentially, free press- though they didn't know that's what they were going to do, I'm sure.

The point is, if he wants to make such a film, he should be able to.
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« Reply #13983 on: January 08, 2015, 05:01:07 pm »

Totally. People should have the right to do such a movie. It's still an immature, dickish reaction.
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Re: Sheb's European Politics Megathread
« Reply #13984 on: January 08, 2015, 05:01:24 pm »

True, but this:

Someone needs to make an insulting pornographic film about Mohammad that depicts him as having a micropenis and his wives resorting to lesbianism as a result.

Is not simply "drawing Muhammad".
Oh, that. Alright, point taken.
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Re: Sheb's European Politics Megathread
« Reply #13985 on: January 08, 2015, 05:02:49 pm »

It could serve the same purpose as the "piss christ", pronographic movie about politicians and other offense agaist respected things : nothing is so sacred that it's a crime to tarnish it.

I think the same pf flags by the way. Forbidding the burning of the countrie's own flag is an idiocy.
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Re: Sheb's European Politics Megathread
« Reply #13986 on: January 08, 2015, 05:03:19 pm »

Totally. People should have the right to do such a movie. It's still an immature, dickish reaction.

Indeed. But I don't think that was meant as an actual course of action, just an exaggerated form of what should be done- continued satire over Muhammed, 'cause to hell if we're going to lay down for some gun-toting maniacs.
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Re: Sheb's European Politics Megathread
« Reply #13987 on: January 08, 2015, 05:12:00 pm »

It could serve the same purpose as the "piss christ", pronographic movie about politicians and other offense agaist respected things : nothing is so sacred that it's a crime to tarnish it.

I think the same pf flags by the way. Forbidding the burning of the countrie's own flag is an idiocy.
Okay, so making a movie which portrays the Holocaust as something fun and laugh-worthy is totally allowed under that ideology, right?
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Re: Sheb's European Politics Megathread
« Reply #13988 on: January 08, 2015, 05:13:08 pm »

There are holocaust jokes, and people do laugh at them.
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« Reply #13989 on: January 08, 2015, 05:14:33 pm »

It could serve the same purpose as the "piss christ", pronographic movie about politicians and other offense agaist respected things : nothing is so sacred that it's a crime to tarnish it.

I think the same pf flags by the way. Forbidding the burning of the countrie's own flag is an idiocy.
Okay, so making a movie which portrays the Holocaust as something fun and laugh-worthy is totally allowed under that ideology, right?
You mean Producers?
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« Reply #13990 on: January 08, 2015, 05:15:15 pm »

I wonder where you guys get the idea that C.H. was only attacking islam.

I distinctly remember a cartoon with the christian god, Jesus and the holy spirit where having chain anal sex, and another one representing the local fascist leader as an actual piece of shit.
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« Reply #13991 on: January 08, 2015, 05:16:24 pm »

I wonder where you guys get the idea that C.H. was only attacking islam.
Who ever said they were?
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« Reply #13992 on: January 08, 2015, 05:20:24 pm »

I wonder where you guys get the idea that C.H. was only attacking islam.
Who ever said they were?
Me, misreading some posts. Apologies. Long day.
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« Reply #13993 on: January 08, 2015, 05:23:51 pm »

So... They may not be as well organised at they first seemed?
It appears - from the way they did the shooting - that they had some sort of military training. (They fired single, aimed shots instead of wildly firing rounds like someone who can't handle automatic weapons.) They might have gotten that training in the Middle East or even in France. That doesn't necesarily mean that they are directly connected to some larger organisation or that they have any real guerilla training or anything. They also left lots of molotov cocktails and banners with messages in Arabic in their car, so maybe they didn't have that much of a plan for after the killing.
One of them was condemned for being part of a cell sending people in Irak, the day before he was meant to go to Syria. Not to say the current action is organized by a bigger organization, but they definitely know people (as in, other terrorists). Don't know if they ever went to the Middle East, though.
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Re: Sheb's European Politics Megathread
« Reply #13994 on: January 08, 2015, 11:09:16 pm »

The producers isn't making fun of the holocaust, it's making fun of how people react to the holocaust.
Making fun of the holocaust might be depicting all the Nazi's as clowns spraying water in the face of people over 1940's Europe, what the producers does is dress modern clowns as Nazi's and have them spray water on the contemporary audience. I feel theres a significant difference as one makes light of the actual suffering of people at the hands of murderers whereas the other makes light of our own society, and the way in which we treat history. Of course people who are seriously emotionally invested in the subject would be greatly offended by either depiction and it would obviously be inflammatory to these groups.
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