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[BlindKitty]

You might not know that, but we had elections here in Poland last Sunday. The local kind, with mayors and stuff being elected.

And we still don't have all the results.

Not tragic enough yet? We have had a computer program to server elections that doesn't work; multiple people hacking the servers, adding candidates to second turn (even completely non-existing ones); program that doesn't work; voting cards left unattended in random places, people being caught buying/selling votes; program that doesn't work; up to 40% of votes was invalid in some regions; the program was printing the results for one place tagged as results for another place; and did I mention that the program was not working?
(For anybody knowing anything about programming: this program was disassembled, and put on GitHub: https://github.com/wybory2014/Kalkulator1. You will cry. If you know C#, you can even commit suicide after looking at this, having lost all faith in humanity).
The partial results seem to have nothing in common with exit poll (over 10% discrepancy in some places for a single party). The scale of the mess is unbelievable, really.

Be happy that you live in places where the country administration is capable of counting the votes in less than a week...

[Sergarr]

You might not know that, but we had elections here in Poland last Sunday. The local kind, with mayors and stuff being elected.

And we still don't have all the results.

Not tragic enough yet? We have had a computer program to server elections that doesn't work; multiple people hacking the servers, adding candidates to second turn (even completely non-existing ones); program that doesn't work; voting cards left unattended in random places, people being caught buying/selling votes; program that doesn't work; up to 40% of votes was invalid in some regions; the program was printing the results for one place tagged as results for another place; and did I mention that the program was not working?
(For anybody knowing anything about programming: this program was disassembled, and put on GitHub: https://github.com/wybory2014/Kalkulator1. You will cry. If you know C#, you can even commit suicide after looking at this, having lost all faith in humanity).
The partial results seem to have nothing in common with exit poll (over 10% discrepancy in some places for a single party). The scale of the mess is unbelievable, really.

Be happy that you live in places where the country administration is capable of counting the votes in less than a week...

That's both hilarious and so fucking wrong I don't even 146%

[Helgoland]

Reportage about ooperation between Norwegians and Russians in Murmansk and Kirkenes, on the shores of the Arctic Ocean.
It's in German, sadly, but I guess it sheds some light on how Putin is inflicting lasting damage on the relations with Russia's neeighbors.

[Sergarr]

>implying Putin is microcontrolling every outward action of Russia

[Helgoland]

>implying Putin is microcontrolling every outward action of Russia

Well, no, but I guess you haven't read the article

[LordSlowpoke]

i don't blame him, the link's fucked

[Dutchling]

Yeah, "http://Reportage about ooperation between Norwegians and Russians in Murmansk and Kirkenes, on the shores of the Arctic Ocean." is not a valid link.

For some reason.

[smjjames]

Reportage about ooperation between Norwegians and Russians in Murmansk and Kirkenes, on the shores of the Arctic Ocean.
It's in German, sadly, but I guess it sheds some light on how Putin is inflicting lasting damage on the relations with Russia's neeighbors.

Your link is messed up helgo.

[Helgoland]

Fixed it - don't know what happened there.

[smjjames]

Google translate kind of garbled that first big paragraph, but the rest seems okayish.

It does mistake one guys last name to mean mountains or mountain, when it's supposed to be just a last name, Berge. It probably does mean mountain (iceberg for example), but google translate is just being google translate here.

Edit: Yeah, Google translate garbled up that first big paragraph, but the rest can be understood.

[MonkeyHead]

UKIP just won a by-election with a majority of 2000 votes, overturning a Tory majority of 9000+. Their candidate was awful and they still won. Lib Dems possibly lost their deposit to a dominatrix. Interesting days ahead for WM with two UKIP MPs.

I would argue that as the guy who got elected was actually the incumbent who triggered the by-election by dropping Tory loyalty and switching to UKIP (the second time this has occurred), that he has lost a significant proportion of his majority. So, all we really know is that Tory areas whose MP decides to join UKIP will still elect them - which to me smacks of knee jerk popularism from the politicians involved. For me, UKIP will need to cleanly take a seat from the Tories (or more convincingly still, Labour) without a defection before I consider them a true major force in the balance of UK power.

[Owlbread]

I think we'll see quite a few clean wins next year, MonkeyHead. Besides the obvious ones like Thanet and the Kentish seats I predict a few will go to UKIP in Portsmouth/Hampshire. I hope to god no Welsh seat goes to UKIP.

[Descan]

They probably will. You know you can't trust those shifty Welsh.

Oh hey MonkeyHead.

[MonkeyHead]

I hope to god no Welsh seat goes to UKIP.

I can't see that happening. Seats here are either fairly safe Lab/PC or flip flop between Lab/PC/Lib. There are a few Tory seats (Good old Conwy, thanks to all the retires in Llandudno), but Labour is usually so close behind that any Tory/UKIP vote split would play into either their or PC's hands. UKIP "preys" on Tory sentiment, of which there is little on this side of the Severn.

[Ukrainian Ranger]

Oh, Ukrainian thread is closed. Good, I have a legitimate reason to ignore it.

We have Holodomor Remembrance Day in Ukraine today. Good reminder of what will happen again should we, Ukrainians, lose war to Russia