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Derick the Swordmaster of Doom

Gregor the Tanky Stab-Sentinel

[Sirus]

Well, I'm thinking we load up some units on the mounted ones (considering how two of our highest-RES units are mounted) and charge in. Is it a perfect plan? Far from it. But if we can just get some dudes near the sage, he'll have to stop Berserking in order to fight back even if said dudes are Berserk themselves (because they can attack friend or foe). Once that happens, superior numbers will do the rest.

Feel free to poke holes in the plan, because its essentially a zerg rush and I hate zerg rushing.

[freeformschooler]

Here's a better question: what happens to Rescued units when the rescuer is berserked?

[Sirus]

Hmm...what happens if a berserk unit is carrying someone? Would the carried unit get dropped?

I'm thinking Seyena pick up one of our heavy hitters and dash for the sage. She has high RES and Savior, so she won't lose any evade from Rescuing.

Ailment staves only call for target's RES and distance between the target and the caster. Evade does nothing here

So, uh, what is the answer to the question? Say, Olison is carrying Valor and gets Berserk'd. Would Valor get dropped instantly or would he be stuck for the ride? Or something else entirely?

He would only lose the ability to be dropped by Olison, but Valor could 'drop himself' at cost of his own action.

* Sirus coughs

[Blade Master Model 42]

Man, what happens if we flee like babies? Because I'm tellin ya, retreat is starting to look like a nice option.

[Powder Miner]

If I were in charge of writing FEF rules, I would make it so a rescuee whose rescuer gets berserked gets snapped over their berserked carrier's knee.

[Gamerboy4life]

Spoiler: Potentially Bad Ideas (click to show/hide)

If we do the Seyena plan, giving her the short spear will allow her to do, if both attacks hit, 30 damage on the guy, just three points away from killing him. She'd have a 2% chance of critting him with either hit. If Valor is by her, she would do 32 (Just one away, so close) damage and have a 22% chance of critting him with either hit. Either way, she'd take ten damage for her trouble. Big problem with this plan is that she'll drop enemy turn because archers and spearmen, no doubt about that in my mind, and if Valor is with her he would probably get berserked. So very risky, and something that would really need to be hammered out more in my opinion if this is seriously considered.

Sending the mages in might work too, as they have the least chance amongst us to be berserked, but it would take them a turn or two to actually reach the sage, possibly more if the spearmen play and archers play interference which they undoubtedly will. The Sage also has good RES, which is will undoubtedly be very annoying for them.

Sal's on his own on his side, so has the least risk of being berserked... But if played wrong, has a very good chance of dying if he gets downed, which is a good possibility due to the spearmen. If he gets downed, the Sage would make it ultimately too dangerous to actually approach due to his staff, and the soldiers would, once again, play interference. So I'm rather leery of this idea due to high possibility of death.

I think this is actually a viable idea...

Do support bonuses count if they're carrying their support? If it does, (And it should, IMHO,) Then Seyena could grab Valor and the Short Spear, and go up and nearly kill sage. Someone else could follow up and kill the sage.




I'll have Seyena edge to just a tile or two inside his range. It wouldn't make sense to berserk her, she wouldn't be able to do too much damage to the rest of the group. Everyone else lines up on the outside edge, and when it comes time, Valor runs in front of her, she grabs him, and goes and kills sage with the short spear.

Well, sleep time for me. Get yer actions until morning or I will force a turn.

And you don't want to still be on the map at Turn 15.

c:

This worries me. Let's finish the map before a shitload of reinforcements come.

[Sirus]

Sounds good. Should the rest of us come rushing after you two, or stay back? Keep in mind that if the plan fails to survive contact with the enemy (as most plans do), you'll probably want some nearby assistance.

[Taricus]

Powder, just charge in. Next turn, someone can trade you the lance back and you could kill the sage!

[Xanmyral]

Well, Valor just needs to be within three steps of you, so he can easily go from outside the range too. The idea I had was that you were where Tant is, Valor was where Charlotte is, Valor moves first and you move second. You'd unfortunately be right smack dab up against a spearman, which is not a good thing, but you'd have a clear shot at the sage, two of them. With Valor there, you'd have two shots with a one in five percent chance of critting, and you'd only need to crit once for it to kill him...

Assuming both shots sink, honestly, since you'd have a... 85 percent chance each shot to hit, accounting for everything.

[Gamerboy4life]

Sounds good. Should the rest of us come rushing after you two, or stay back? Keep in mind that if the plan fails to survive contact with the enemy (as most plans do), you'll probably want some nearby assistance.

Well, I'm not going to ask or demand anything, if it gets a character killed it's my ass, but if Charlotte moves to 19,15, she can get in range of the Sage and be a space away from the spearmen, just in case the possibility Seyena doesn't kill him outright.


Once he's dead, we're in the clear, and everyone can pull a Leeroy.

[Xanmyral]

...I can't believe I forgot Charlotte's insane range. She can easily nail the sage, finishing him off from what Seyena does, no doubt.

[Gamerboy4life]

...I can't believe I forgot Charlotte's insane range. She can easily nail the sage, finishing him off from what Seyena does, no doubt.

Charillista.

[Sirus]

And if Gregor moves to within 3 squares of that space before she moves, there's almost no way she can miss. Support bonuses ftw.

[freeformschooler]

Sounds good. Should the rest of us come rushing after you two, or stay back? Keep in mind that if the plan fails to survive contact with the enemy (as most plans do), you'll probably want some nearby assistance.

Well, I'm not going to ask or demand anything, if it gets a character killed it's my ass, but if Charlotte moves to 19,15, she can get in range of the Sage and be a space away from the spearmen, just in case the possibility Seyena doesn't kill him outright.

I can't hit him from 19,15, so doesn't this plan assume the sage is lured toward us instead of just sitting their zerking from 9 RNG.

[Xanmyral]

You can hit from 17,13 though, if I recall that you have four range right.

I got an idea in my head as to how this could play out, if anyone wants to hear it.