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Bay12 Presidential Focus Polling 2016

Ted Cruz
- 7 (6.5%)
Rick Santorum
- 16 (14.8%)
Michelle Bachmann
- 13 (12%)
Chris Christie
- 23 (21.3%)
Rand Paul
- 49 (45.4%)

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Re: Richard Nixon's Sane Conservatism Nostalgia Megathread
« Reply #8115 on: August 15, 2014, 04:04:02 pm »

Either better PR or rather good propaganda, though. Think the states have always been pretty good at saying they're the land of the free (implied: Everyone else isn't, so don't turn to those godless freedom hating foreigners for anything), but less so on the whole being it part. Plus there seems to be more folks than normal who have a great deal of their identity wrapped around the concept and are very willing to bend their perception of reality to meet it, ha.

The media tends to be based in or around New York City, so you mostly hear opinions from about 10% of the nation. Some things apply to everyone *cough* NSA *cough*, but there are other things that no one even thinks about if they live outside of that one small area.
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Re: Richard Nixon's Sane Conservatism Nostalgia Megathread
« Reply #8116 on: August 15, 2014, 04:06:11 pm »

Either better PR or rather good propaganda, though. Think the states have always been pretty good at saying they're the land of the free (implied: Everyone else isn't, so don't turn to those godless freedom hating foreigners for anything), but less so on the whole being it part. Plus there seems to be more folks than normal who have a great deal of their identity wrapped around the concept and are very willing to bend their perception of reality to meet it, ha.

The media tends to be based in or around New York City, so you mostly hear opinions from about 10% of the nation. Some things apply to everyone *cough* NSA *cough*, but there are other things that no one even thinks about if they live outside of that one small area.

CNN is based in Atlanta, FYI.....
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Re: Richard Nixon's Sane Conservatism Nostalgia Megathread
« Reply #8117 on: August 15, 2014, 04:17:08 pm »

CNN is also a joke. They care around 70% about installing solid gold holographic graph projectors and hyping up the news segment where they plan to use their holographic graph projectors, 20% about coming up with ways to somehow achieve a higher screaming-at-each-other:content ratio, and maybe 10% news.
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Re: Richard Nixon's Sane Conservatism Nostalgia Megathread
« Reply #8118 on: August 15, 2014, 04:19:15 pm »

You know, this whole incident has gotten one thought into my mind.  The media is fast.  Too fast.  Very soon after it had happened, when little was known about the incident, it was reported.  When little is known, people tend to fill in with a 'worst case scenario', which can and likely will affect any statements made once people start flooding in and witnesses become fearful that if they speak against the popular thought, then they will be attacked, making them convince themselves that they saw something different than what actually happened.

"Who are we protecting? The citizens of Ferguson."

From what I have found out, the rioters are out of town opportunists, some of whom are possibly trying to aggravate it to worse levels.  When those are in the crowd, local residents and the people there for a peaceful protest are caught in the crossfire.

"Yeah we're walking right into their homes and shooting them."

Personally, this sounded a bit like sarcasm to me.

Doesn't matter if he strongarmed a shop owner or not. At the time of the incident, he was unarmed and surrendering. Seems like typical Fox Noose to bring up a victim's past as an attempt to justify whatever happened to them.

Potentially.  I'm not entirely convinced anyone knew what happened, and those that potentially know either convinced themselves to different opinions, or were completely drowned out.

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They'd need less of them if the country had saner gun laws in general.

If you are referring to removing guns from the hands of people, at this point, there are so many guns in the hands of gangs and criminals, that it would make people less safe.  The common criminal doesn't want to die or get shot.  Without deterrence, they would be more likely to go after more people, since while more law-abiding citizens would modify to fit the laws, criminals would keep the same weapons they have.  Only good way to get them out of their hands would be police, and with public opinion how it is on them...

If you are referring on making the process to get a gun more difficult, with the people needing to go through background checks, psyche evaluation, gun safety courses, etc., I agree that that should be done to make those who would go on mass sprees have a harder time to get the weapons they would need.

The media tends to be based in or around New York City, so you mostly hear opinions from about 10% of the nation. Some things apply to everyone *cough* NSA *cough*, but there are other things that no one even thinks about if they live outside of that one small area.

There's a couple in St. Louis, which are the ones I tend to use since the city is only an hour away.  Due to proximity, I'm keeping an eye on the situation to make sure it doesn't go outside Ferguson.
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Re: Richard Nixon's Sane Conservatism Nostalgia Megathread
« Reply #8119 on: August 15, 2014, 04:27:49 pm »

CNN is also a joke. They care around 70% about installing solid gold holographic graph projectors and hyping up the news segment where they plan to use their holographic graph projectors, 20% about coming up with ways to somehow achieve a higher screaming-at-each-other:content ratio, and maybe 10% news.

What do you suggest I watch then, Fox?

You can't deny that their holographic projector stuff is cool though.
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Re: Richard Nixon's Sane Conservatism Nostalgia Megathread
« Reply #8120 on: August 15, 2014, 04:28:28 pm »

Personally, this sounded a bit like sarcasm to me.
It was very obvious sarcasm

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Re: Richard Nixon's Sane Conservatism Nostalgia Megathread
« Reply #8121 on: August 15, 2014, 04:39:38 pm »

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What do you suggest I watch then, Fox?
I'd generally suggest newspapers and/or news websites, such that you can scan right past any fluff articles and easily get any news for the day then move on.

If you do want to listen to something, where I am, BBC world news is on every day at 3:00pm on NPR. Lots of NPR is pretty fluffy too, but I can just aim for that one time and it's quite efficient. They're just syndicating it. Also a world focus that you don't get from the abovementioned us news sources as much.
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Re: Richard Nixon's Sane Conservatism Nostalgia Megathread
« Reply #8122 on: August 15, 2014, 04:53:02 pm »

What do you suggest I watch then, Fox?

If the options are Fox or CNN, dear god just kill me now, we've failed as a society and a civilization.

Luckily we have Al Jazeera, Vice, BBC, there's plenty of places to get real news.
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« Reply #8123 on: August 15, 2014, 05:06:05 pm »

What do you suggest I watch then, Fox?

If the options are Fox or CNN, dear god just kill me now, we've failed as a society and a civilization.

Luckily we have Al Jazeera, Vice, BBC, there's plenty of places to get real news.

CNN is okay-ish.
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Re: Richard Nixon's Sane Conservatism Nostalgia Megathread
« Reply #8124 on: August 15, 2014, 05:14:29 pm »

If by "okay-is", you mean "Not Fox".
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Re: Richard Nixon's Sane Conservatism Nostalgia Megathread
« Reply #8125 on: August 15, 2014, 05:15:26 pm »

If by "okay-is", you mean "Not Fox".

Pretty much.

I'm pretty sure I don't get BBC over here though.
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Re: Richard Nixon's Sane Conservatism Nostalgia Megathread
« Reply #8126 on: August 15, 2014, 07:08:25 pm »

An'regardless, m'fairly sure if you get internet you get BBC. Well, just about everything, really, but eh.
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Re: Richard Nixon's Sane Conservatism Nostalgia Megathread
« Reply #8127 on: August 15, 2014, 07:50:15 pm »

Yeah... looking back through U.S. history, I've never been able to find this mystical "once was" moment that everyone pines over.  Things have gotten worse (in my opinion), but that doesn't mean that they were ever very good in comparison to the rest of the developed world.

Well, for black people... segregation officially ended in 1954, so logically it couldn't have been better except in the 60 year period between now and then.  And really that interval is shorter than that, maybe 50-40 years.

It also means that my grandparents grew up before segregation ended.  Huh.
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« Reply #8128 on: August 15, 2014, 08:30:30 pm »

In unrelated news, Rick Perry apparently got indicted on a couple corruption/abuse of power charges.
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Re: Richard Nixon's Sane Conservatism Nostalgia Megathread
« Reply #8129 on: August 15, 2014, 08:41:44 pm »

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