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Ted Cruz

7 (6.5%)

Rick Santorum

16 (14.8%)

Michelle Bachmann

13 (12%)

Chris Christie

23 (21.3%)

Rand Paul

49 (45.4%)

Total Members Voted: 107

[GlyphGryph]

My own apologies, I read that as that you claiming  to have had already admitted it and that we were still pushing it despite that. It's clear now that it is not what you intended.

[MetalSlimeHunt]

Oh god, I just wanted to post polling data! Here, have more!

Americans primarily support citizenship for illegal immigrants, at 62% opposed to 19% supporting deportation and 12% supporting permanent residency without citizenship. The deportation frenzy appears to be concentrated in the Tea Party and White Evangelicals alone, surprising nobody.

Also, the majority of Latino workers in the U.S. are now American-born.

There is a mostly narrow majority support for the ACA contraception mandate in all types of businesses besides churches, which are at 42%.

[GlyphGryph]

And in less directly political news Ron Paul to Make Acting Debut in Part 3 of 'Atlas Shrugged'

[10ebbor10]

What happened. Since when is America actually making somewhat progressive decisions?

[scriver]

Also, the majority of Latino workers in the U.S. are now American-born.

Well duh.

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I'm sorry, I couldn't resist

[GlyphGryph]

What happened. Since when is America actually making somewhat progressive decisions?

Well, with Europe swinging so conservative lately, and America being staunch believers in "Whatever Europe does, do the opposite", well... you know how it goes!

More seriously, the American people have always had pretty progressive beliefs, statistically, but those beliefs were less important than supporting their "team", and the teams themselves have never been very progressive.

[MetalSlimeHunt]

Well, America is somewhat anomalous on beliefs regarding immigration. While there has been a lot of nativist periods over the years, under normal circumstances most people realize that there isn't any real reason to be anti-immigrant in an almost entirely immigrant and immigrant-descended society.

Even the "deport them all" maniacs usually are in favor of legal immigration. To get to the "let nobody in" crowd you have to go to the seriously far-right. As I understand it, that's a more mainstream position in Europe.

Permanent residency is not a position that really rings strongly in American political discourse. Both the left and the right are proud of residents becoming citizens. To make a permanent class of non-citizen residents is both a terrible idea and kind of contrary to the American ideal, which is why it is even less popular than deportation frenzy.

As for euthanasia, it hasn't been focused strongly upon by either party (which is why it's still illegal in almost every state despite solid support), and thus has become a front of quiet progression without major right-wing figures on TV every day shouting about "killer bureaucrat doctors going to pull the plug on grandma for resource conservation!".

[SalmonGod]

I wonder if we'll see something like this present the next time a major activist movement sweeps the country?

[Bauglir]

Looks like it's only a matter of time before the testudo formation becomes standard practice at protests. Not gonna help terribly with the pepper spray, but you take what you can get for dealing with the other rounds. Bleh.

[SalmonGod]

I'm so tired of decisions that will impact the daily lives of billions of people being made in secret by a handful.

[Helgoland]

I wonder if we'll see something like this present the next time a major activist movement sweeps the country?

There's a silver lining to that message, though - this is (sorta) high-tech, and it's made in Africa! Southern Africa, but still.

[FearfulJesuit]

bwahahahahahahahaha

[smjjames]

bwahahahahahahahaha

GlyphGryph already posted about that at the top of the page. Not that specific article though.

[Graknorke]

I wonder if we'll see something like this present the next time a major activist movement sweeps the country?

That sounds irresponsibly dangerous. Pepper spray is bad enough, but then there's lasers designed to be shone into people's eyes to blind them, and the thing can be loaded with solid plastic pellets too? It's just asking for someone to get killed or maimed.

[Sergarr]

I wonder if we'll see something like this present the next time a major activist movement sweeps the country?

That sounds irresponsibly dangerous. Pepper spray is bad enough, but then there's lasers designed to be shone into people's eyes to blind them, and the thing can be loaded with solid plastic pellets too? It's just asking for someone to get killed or maimed.

I wonder when we'll see drone counter measures on the market.