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Bay12 Presidential Focus Polling 2016

Ted Cruz
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Rick Santorum
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Michelle Bachmann
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Chris Christie
- 23 (21.3%)
Rand Paul
- 49 (45.4%)

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Re: FJ's Murrican Politics Megathread 2: So dysfunction. Much Congress. Wow.
« Reply #5790 on: January 28, 2014, 01:08:37 pm »

You know who else got in trouble for corrupting the youth?!

Socrates!
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Re: FJ's Murrican Politics Megathread 2: So dysfunction. Much Congress. Wow.
« Reply #5791 on: January 28, 2014, 01:10:36 pm »

...are you comparing a mildly talented pop artist with one of the most well-known philosophers in history? .__.
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Re: FJ's Murrican Politics Megathread 2: So dysfunction. Much Congress. Wow.
« Reply #5792 on: January 28, 2014, 01:11:50 pm »

The only joke here is the state of petitions on whitehouse.gov.
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Re: FJ's Murrican Politics Megathread 2: So dysfunction. Much Congress. Wow.
« Reply #5793 on: January 28, 2014, 01:13:02 pm »

A DUI is a felony, for which you can be deported. Being a wealthy celebrity, it likely won't come to that.

The real crime is all those other immigrants who get deported for minor things while Biebers roam free (and drunken).
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Re: FJ's Murrican Politics Megathread 2: So dysfunction. Much Congress. Wow.
« Reply #5794 on: January 28, 2014, 01:30:38 pm »

You know who else got in trouble for corrupting the youth?!

Socrates!
Ah, I see, so you are proposing to force him to drink poison instead of sending him into exile.  ;)
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Re: FJ's Murrican Politics Megathread 2: So dysfunction. Much Congress. Wow.
« Reply #5795 on: January 28, 2014, 02:09:03 pm »

Expecting much in the way of punishment is folly. They can't do that. It'd make them unpopular.
Or a rapper.
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Re: FJ's Murrican Politics Megathread 2: So dysfunction. Much Congress. Wow.
« Reply #5796 on: January 28, 2014, 02:11:08 pm »

You know who else got in trouble for corrupting the youth?!

Socrates!
Ah, I see, so you are proposing to force him to drink poison instead of sending him into exile.  ;)
I'm all for that.
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Re: FJ's Murrican Politics Megathread 2: So dysfunction. Much Congress. Wow.
« Reply #5797 on: January 28, 2014, 03:50:36 pm »

Expecting much in the way of punishment is folly. They can't do that. It'd make them unpopular.
Or a rapper.
I meant the judge and jury.

Justin Bieber as a rapper would kill me.
A judge and jury as one wouldn't?

Hear me lay down the law/Like I never done before/Slap this cheap-ass whore/And let her pass my bar
But first we must sit down/There's all this stuff we got to do/You know what? Fuck it/Fry that goddamn fella brown
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Re: FJ's Murrican Politics Megathread 2: So dysfunction. Much Congress. Wow.
« Reply #5798 on: January 28, 2014, 05:12:56 pm »

Right Wing Watch has destroyed my inbox, so it's that time again!

We'll start with the classic crazy, Bryan Fischer, who is very upset about all the people who got gay married at the Grammys, as well as Beyonce's obvious devil worshiping ways back at the Superbowl.

As for our other regular, well...[Beck Intensifies] (He was also upset about the Grammys, specifically the Witchery of Katy Perry, which apparently is deeply connected to the DNC.)

Bishop Thomas Paprocki endorses the exorcism of gay people as an act of love and discipline, but don't worry, it's not just religious officials being homophobic, certified crazy radio host Erik Rush warns that homosexuals are going to push society "over the line", and cause "homo-hunting" due to their "evangelizing".

Speaking of crazy radio hosts, Prison Planet's own Alex Jones interviews former Representative Bob Barr about his plan to impeach Obama with the same Articles of Impeachment that were raised against Clinton should he be re-elected.

Next, a series of videos from the South Carolina Tea Party Convention: SC Senate Candidate Richard Cash uses the "I Have A Dream" speech to compare the criminalization of abortion to the civil rights movement. Two candidates..."debate"....about climate change. SC Senate Candidate Bill Connor talks about how Europeans are lazy, that the Constitution is a Christian document, advocates impeaching Obama, denies the Establishment Clause, claims atheism is a religion, and further claims that Congress has the right to forcefully disband any court that makes a ruling they disagree with.

Finally, Representative Louie Gohmert wants to flat tax absolutely everybody, including those on welfare.
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Re: FJ's Murrican Politics Megathread 2: So dysfunction. Much Congress. Wow.
« Reply #5799 on: January 28, 2014, 05:34:21 pm »

Our politicians scare me on a regular basis.
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Re: FJ's Murrican Politics Megathread 2: So dysfunction. Much Congress. Wow.
« Reply #5800 on: January 28, 2014, 05:45:43 pm »

@Tom Perkins thing
If people want to make slippery slope arguments about Occupy and class warfare, they should really look at the Reign of Terror, not examples of those in power abusing the lower and marginalized classes.

(nevermind that absolute numbers wise, the lower classes still suffered the worst during the Reign of Terror. Still a less stupid example)
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Re: FJ's Murrican Politics Megathread 2: So dysfunction. Much Congress. Wow.
« Reply #5801 on: January 28, 2014, 05:50:48 pm »

Our politicians scare me on a regular basis.
Yea, me too. Seriously some of these people belong in mental facilities...

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Re: FJ's Murrican Politics Megathread 2: So dysfunction. Much Congress. Wow.
« Reply #5802 on: January 28, 2014, 07:14:00 pm »

Our politicians scare me on a regular basis.
Yea, me too. Seriously some of these people belong in mental facilities...

Which brings us to one obvious conclusion:  turn the house of representatives into a mental facility.  But then, Roger Waters proposed this already the year I was born.
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Re: FJ's Murrican Politics Megathread 2: So dysfunction. Much Congress. Wow.
« Reply #5803 on: January 28, 2014, 08:18:22 pm »

Our politicians scare me on a regular basis.
That's not that impressive. Many of these people have very dubious claims to the title "politician" (already a dubious honor in and of itself), and in a nation of 319 million people (about 4.3% of all people alive on earth today), there are always going to be enough to freak you the hell out.

Basically people have always been this crazy: It's just more noticeable now that everyone has a video recorder.
@Tom Perkins thing
If people want to make slippery slope arguments about Occupy and class warfare, they should really look at the Reign of Terror, not examples of those in power abusing the lower and marginalized classes.

(nevermind that absolute numbers wise, the lower classes still suffered the worst during the Reign of Terror. Still a less stupid example)
That's being a bit unfair. If 500 people of the 1000 people in group A die, and 600 people of the 1000000 people in Group B die, you can't rightfully say that Group B suffers more. With that logic the US, with a casualty total of 418,000 and a population hit of .32%(note the decimal), suffered more then Lithuania, with a casualty total of 350,000 and a population hit of 14.23%.
Our politicians scare me on a regular basis.
Yea, me too. Seriously some of these people belong in mental facilities...

Which brings us to one obvious conclusion:  turn the house of representatives into a mental facility.  But then, Roger Waters proposed this already the year I was born.
People have hated Congress for much longer then that.Even John Adams.

I think it works because no one hates Congress more the Congress.
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Re: FJ's Murrican Politics Megathread 2: So dysfunction. Much Congress. Wow.
« Reply #5804 on: January 28, 2014, 08:33:23 pm »

@Tom Perkins thing
If people want to make slippery slope arguments about Occupy and class warfare, they should really look at the Reign of Terror, not examples of those in power abusing the lower and marginalized classes.

(nevermind that absolute numbers wise, the lower classes still suffered the worst during the Reign of Terror. Still a less stupid example)
That's being a bit unfair. If 500 people of the 1000 people in group A die, and 600 people of the 1000000 people in Group B die, you can't rightfully say that Group B suffers more. With that logic the US, with a casualty total of 418,000 and a population hit of .32%(note the decimal), suffered more then Lithuania, with a casualty total of 350,000 and a population hit of 14.23%.
While you're pretty much right using extreme examples like that, it gets a bit more ambiguous when the percentages get closer. As I recall, a larger percentage of the nobility died in the Reign of Terror than did the common folk, but it was a ~5% difference.

* kaijyuu is too lazy to look up actual numbers.

Anyway, if 40% of Population A died vs 38% of Population B, but Population B has 1000x as many members, it's not easy to say population A had it worst.
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