Bay 12 Games Forum

Please login or register.

Login with username, password and session length
Advanced search  

Poll

Bay12 Presidential Focus Polling 2016

Ted Cruz
- 7 (6.5%)
Rick Santorum
- 16 (14.8%)
Michelle Bachmann
- 13 (12%)
Chris Christie
- 23 (21.3%)
Rand Paul
- 49 (45.4%)

Total Members Voted: 107


Pages: 1 ... 307 308 [309] 310 311 ... 667

Author Topic: Bay12 Election Night Watch Party  (Read 832714 times)

Sheb

  • Bay Watcher
  • You Are An Avatar
    • View Profile
Re: FJ's American Politics Megathread Two: Celebrating Four Decades of Malaise
« Reply #4620 on: December 03, 2013, 08:00:52 am »

Pretty sure it isn't explicitly stated. Sure, a major part of the evildoers are (amongst a hundred other things) homosexual, but still. Hitler and sugar argument, kinda.

My Bible-fu is a bit rusty, but basically it goes like that:
  • Old Testament is choke-full of rules, from not having gay sex to not eating shrimps and not wearing clothing of mixed fibers. Of course, most of them are punishable by death.
  • Jesus never invalidated those rules, said he was actually coming to accomplish them, but with his whole forgiveness and not throwing stones at adulteress got rid of the punishment part. Hence why it's not official church policy to kill gays.
  • St Paul and early church leader, inspired by God and having seen visions of various stuff decided that Gentiles converting to Christianity need not follow all the laws of the old testament, but set out 4 things that have to be respected: (Acts 15:19-21) do not eat food offered to idols, do not eat strangled animals or blood and do not commit sexual sins. (Yeah, black pudding is a work of the devil).

Paul also insist a few more time that being gay is a sin, even though God is supposed to forgive gays as well.
Logged

Quote from: Paul-Henry Spaak
Europe consists only of small countries, some of which know it and some of which don’t yet.

mainiac

  • Bay Watcher
  • Na vazeal kwah-kai
    • View Profile
Re: FJ's American Politics Megathread Two: Celebrating Four Decades of Malaise
« Reply #4621 on: December 03, 2013, 08:49:07 am »

The church would be on completely solid grounds if it said the bible was okay with teh gays.  A better translation of what Paul was denouncing was "boy prostitutes and men who had sex with them."  This became a denouncement of all forms of homosexuality because medieval homophobes didn't have the strongest grasp of first century greek.
Logged
Ancient Babylonian god of RAEG
--------------
[CAN_INTERNET]
[PREFSTRING:google]
"Don't tell me what you value. Show me your budget and I will tell you what you value"
« Last Edit: February 10, 1988, 03:27:23 pm by UR MOM »
mainiac is always a little sarcastic, at least.

Sheb

  • Bay Watcher
  • You Are An Avatar
    • View Profile
Re: FJ's American Politics Megathread Two: Celebrating Four Decades of Malaise
« Reply #4622 on: December 03, 2013, 08:54:34 am »

I must confess I haven't read the original Greek, so I can't argue with this, but what about Leviticus?
Logged

Quote from: Paul-Henry Spaak
Europe consists only of small countries, some of which know it and some of which don’t yet.

10ebbor10

  • Bay Watcher
  • DON'T PANIC
    • View Profile
Re: FJ's American Politics Megathread Two: Celebrating Four Decades of Malaise
« Reply #4623 on: December 03, 2013, 09:03:35 am »

I must confess I haven't read the original Greek, so I can't argue with this, but what about Leviticus?
Calls it an abomination, at least in the later versions.
Also, it really has a lot to say about nakedness.
Additionally, it has some weird things to say about harvesting the corners of a field and stuff like that. Really, god loves corners a lot.


Then again, the Old testament functions more as background information to the new testament.

Spoiler: Leviticus 18 (click to show/hide)

Spoiler: Leviticus 19 (click to show/hide)



On a side note, I did some research, the only true anti homosexuality passages are.
Genesis 19 (Sodom and Gomarra)
Leviticus 18:22 and 20:13
Romans 1:21-28
Judas's letter 1:7

Genesis 19 is easily explained if you know military traditions of that time, Leviticus is full of other weirdness against pretty much every nonstandard Aryan Human, and Romans and Judas letter fall under maniac's explanation.
« Last Edit: December 03, 2013, 09:15:49 am by 10ebbor10 »
Logged

Sirus

  • Bay Watcher
  • Resident trucker/goddess/ex-president.
    • View Profile
Re: FJ's American Politics Megathread Two: Celebrating Four Decades of Malaise
« Reply #4624 on: December 03, 2013, 09:54:57 am »

I can't help but feel this thread has gone off the rails a little...
Logged
Quote from: Max White
And lo! Sirus did drive his mighty party truck unto Vegas, and it was good.

Star Wars: Age of Rebellion OOC Thread

Shadow of the Demon Lord - OOC Thread - IC Thread

10ebbor10

  • Bay Watcher
  • DON'T PANIC
    • View Profile
Re: FJ's American Politics Megathread Two: Celebrating Four Decades of Malaise
« Reply #4625 on: December 03, 2013, 11:12:40 am »

Kinda.

Anyway, has anything interesting happened in the US.
Logged

RedKing

  • Bay Watcher
  • hoo hoo motherfucker
    • View Profile
Re: FJ's American Politics Megathread Two: Celebrating Four Decades of Malaise
« Reply #4626 on: December 03, 2013, 11:13:27 am »

And yea, in the Last Times of the thread, they shall grapple with questions of the Faith, until the Great Horned Toad shall descend upon them with his chains of thread-locking...
Logged

Remember, knowledge is power. The power to make other people feel stupid.
Quote from: Neil DeGrasse Tyson
Science is like an inoculation against charlatans who would have you believe whatever it is they tell you.

Digital Hellhound

  • Bay Watcher
    • View Profile
Re: FJ's American Politics Megathread Two: Celebrating Four Decades of Malaise
« Reply #4627 on: December 03, 2013, 11:20:18 am »

You have to admit it's more interesting than the umpteenth gun control debate. I'm sure dem homoshexuals are actually relevant to American Politics, though.
Logged
Russia is simply taking an anti-Fascist stance against European Nazi products, they should be applauded. ¡No parmesan!

Moghjubar

  • Bay Watcher
  • Science gets you to space.
    • View Profile
    • Demon Legend
Re: FJ's American Politics Megathread Two: Celebrating Four Decades of Malaise
« Reply #4628 on: December 03, 2013, 11:21:54 am »

Where we are going, we don't need rails.
Though really, incoming religion debate unto thread extinction unless this thing rerails.

Oh... I should probably post something.  Erm... between elections... 3d printer gun bans!  No wait theres a derail into 2nd amendment waiting to happen, crap...

So... how bout that NSA spying program... or something?
Logged
Steam ID
Making things in Unity
Current Project: Demon Legend
Also working on THIS! Farworld Pioneers
Mastodon

FearfulJesuit

  • Bay Watcher
  • True neoliberalism has never been tried
    • View Profile
Re: FJ's American Politics Megathread Two: Celebrating Four Decades of Malaise
« Reply #4629 on: December 03, 2013, 11:27:10 am »

Yeah, I should probably have told folks to pack this up and move it into its own thread earlier. Whatever. Please find a new line to derail.
Logged


@Footjob, you can microwave most grains I've tried pretty easily through the microwave, even if they aren't packaged for it.

Sheb

  • Bay Watcher
  • You Are An Avatar
    • View Profile
Re: FJ's American Politics Megathread Two: Celebrating Four Decades of Malaise
« Reply #4630 on: December 03, 2013, 12:04:32 pm »

Leviticus is full of other weirdness against pretty much every nonstandard Aryan Human

Again, while this is true, most of the weirdness has been invalidated by the Council of Jerusalem. Not the parts about sexuality.
Logged

Quote from: Paul-Henry Spaak
Europe consists only of small countries, some of which know it and some of which don’t yet.

Leafsnail

  • Bay Watcher
  • A single snail can make a world go extinct.
    • View Profile
Re: FJ's American Politics Megathread Two: Celebrating Four Decades of Malaise
« Reply #4631 on: December 03, 2013, 12:20:45 pm »

The Pope has a fair amount of influence over US politics, and his speech on wealth makes the topic quite current.
Logged

Bauglir

  • Bay Watcher
  • Let us make Good
    • View Profile
Re: FJ's American Politics Megathread Two: Celebrating Four Decades of Malaise
« Reply #4632 on: December 03, 2013, 12:25:15 pm »

Yes, but the argument about how evil the Church is is another thing entirely.
Logged
In the days when Sussman was a novice, Minsky once came to him as he sat hacking at the PDP-6.
“What are you doing?”, asked Minsky. “I am training a randomly wired neural net to play Tic-Tac-Toe” Sussman replied. “Why is the net wired randomly?”, asked Minsky. “I do not want it to have any preconceptions of how to play”, Sussman said.
Minsky then shut his eyes. “Why do you close your eyes?”, Sussman asked his teacher.
“So that the room will be empty.”
At that moment, Sussman was enlightened.

Descan

  • Bay Watcher
  • [HEADING INTENSIFIES]
    • View Profile
Re: FJ's American Politics Megathread Two: Celebrating Four Decades of Malaise
« Reply #4633 on: December 03, 2013, 12:25:19 pm »

Also, pretty sure Sodom was about rich people being uncharitable. Ezekiel 16:49 and all that.
Logged
Quote from: SalmonGod
Your innocent viking escapades for canadian social justice and immortality make my flagellum wiggle, too.
Quote from: Myroc
Descan confirmed for antichrist.
Quote from: LeoLeonardoIII
I wonder if any of us don't love Descan.

10ebbor10

  • Bay Watcher
  • DON'T PANIC
    • View Profile
Re: FJ's American Politics Megathread Two: Celebrating Four Decades of Malaise
« Reply #4634 on: December 03, 2013, 12:39:24 pm »

Leviticus is full of other weirdness against pretty much every nonstandard Aryan Human
Again, while this is true, most of the weirdness has been invalidated by the Council of Jerusalem. Not the parts about sexuality.
IIRC, neither have the parts about how you can't cut the corners of a field. Honestly, you can easily ignore the entirety of Leviticus. It's merely background information.
Logged
Pages: 1 ... 307 308 [309] 310 311 ... 667