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Bay12 Presidential Focus Polling 2016

Ted Cruz
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Rick Santorum
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Michelle Bachmann
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Chris Christie
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Rand Paul
- 49 (45.4%)

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Re: FJ's American Politics Megathread Two: Celebrating Four Decades of Malaise
« Reply #4575 on: November 26, 2013, 12:27:25 pm »

I'm fairly certain Obama doesn't actually lack anything that Black Friday would save him money on.

Maybe birth certificates will go on sale.
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Re: FJ's American Politics Megathread Two: Celebrating Four Decades of Malaise
« Reply #4576 on: November 26, 2013, 01:00:08 pm »

They should've opened the healthcare website on Black Friday - instant universal signup!
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Re: FJ's American Politics Megathread Two: Celebrating Four Decades of Malaise
« Reply #4577 on: November 26, 2013, 01:14:36 pm »

They should've opened the healthcare website on Black Friday - instant universal signup!
Actually, there was a wonk the other day pointing out that this is probably the worst time of year to convince people to sign up for health insurance, when it's competing with holiday shopping for disposable income. Little Timmy won't be that thrilled to find an insurance card in his stocking.

They said it would have been better to roll it out in mid-April when everyone has their tax refunds.
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Re: FJ's American Politics Megathread Two: Celebrating Four Decades of Malaise
« Reply #4578 on: November 26, 2013, 04:28:37 pm »

On another note, what happened when one of Congress' chamber pass a bill and the other never pick it up? Does it expire after a while, or does it stay in limbo forever? I'm just asking, because apparently the house passed a cap-and-trade bill back in 2009.

How cool would it be for the Senate to pass it? Can you imagine the rage? The sweet, sweet, energy-efficient rage?  :P
To answer your question, if they never pick it up, it's considered to have "Died in committee" (or something like that)

And a bill needs to be voted on in the same 2-year congressional term. Otherwise, it needs to be re-introduced.
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Re: FJ's American Politics Megathread Two: Celebrating Four Decades of Malaise
« Reply #4579 on: November 26, 2013, 07:50:37 pm »

They should've opened the healthcare website on Black Friday - instant universal signup!
They said it would have been better to roll it out in mid-April when everyone has their tax refunds.

In my experience, people either use that time to catch up on back bills or, if they don't have any back bills, treat the refund as a windfall and splurge on luxuries. Not the time to try selling something as boring and back-burner as health insurance tends to be considered.  Mid-july is probably the best. School's close enough to push the "germ factory" and "sports accident" buttons, while far enough off that most haven't started back to school shopping yet.
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Re: FJ's American Politics Megathread Two: Celebrating Four Decades of Malaise
« Reply #4580 on: December 01, 2013, 03:05:02 pm »

The healthcare.gov wobsite is functional. There's still work to be done, but the apocalypse the Republicans have been gleefully predicting probably won't come to pass.
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Re: FJ's American Politics Megathread Two: Celebrating Four Decades of Malaise
« Reply #4581 on: December 02, 2013, 02:21:51 pm »

Rush Limbaugh calls the Pope a Marxist.

Because he blasphemed against a higher God than Jehovah: Capitalism.
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Re: FJ's American Politics Megathread Two: Celebrating Four Decades of Malaise
« Reply #4582 on: December 02, 2013, 06:32:25 pm »

I find it astonishing how cool this pope is.
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Re: FJ's American Politics Megathread Two: Celebrating Four Decades of Malaise
« Reply #4583 on: December 02, 2013, 07:06:04 pm »

As far as Popes go, this one certainly is full of win and vinegar. I wonder how somebody with some degree of sanity and compassion managed to climb the Vatican ladder...

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Re: FJ's American Politics Megathread Two: Celebrating Four Decades of Malaise
« Reply #4584 on: December 02, 2013, 07:10:22 pm »

He's all talk. I'll jump on the Francis bandwagon when, and only when, he makes some actual positive changes to the Catholic Church. I will remind you all that this is still a guy who considers homosexuality a "derangement".
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Re: FJ's American Politics Megathread Two: Celebrating Four Decades of Malaise
« Reply #4585 on: December 02, 2013, 07:14:20 pm »

Does he? Well fuck... You know what, as far as popes go I'm still on the bandwagon. We have had worse, a lot worse. So far in this long line of religious nutcases, he seems to be the spiffiest.

Theoretically if we continue along the current trajectory, we may very well see a gay atheist female pope within our life time.

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Re: FJ's American Politics Megathread Two: Celebrating Four Decades of Malaise
« Reply #4586 on: December 02, 2013, 07:17:44 pm »

He's all talk. I'll jump on the Francis bandwagon when, and only when, he makes some actual positive changes to the Catholic Church. I will remind you all that this is still a guy who considers homosexuality a "derangement".

Pretty sure when he talked about homosexuality he declared that homosexuality itself, as in an attraction to the same sex, is not a sin, but the committing of homosexual sexual acts is where the Church draws the line. Not sure how that's the same as calling it a "derangement".
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Re: FJ's American Politics Megathread Two: Celebrating Four Decades of Malaise
« Reply #4587 on: December 02, 2013, 07:20:46 pm »

He's all talk. I'll jump on the Francis bandwagon when, and only when, he makes some actual positive changes to the Catholic Church. I will remind you all that this is still a guy who considers homosexuality a "derangement".

Pretty sure when he talked about homosexuality he declared that homosexuality itself, as in an attraction to the same sex, is not a sin, but the committing of homosexual sexual acts is where the Church draws the line. Not sure how that's the same as calling it a "derangement".
I am not impressed by the watered-down "it's not your fault" bigotry of the Catholic Church just because it is not the full-blown psycho bigotry of some other Christian groups.
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Re: FJ's American Politics Megathread Two: Celebrating Four Decades of Malaise
« Reply #4588 on: December 02, 2013, 07:24:58 pm »

...we may see a atheist pope...
I don't see that one happening, for some strange reason. Possibly the reason the King/Queen of England must be a Protestant. Or why the President need be a American citizen.
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Re: FJ's American Politics Megathread Two: Celebrating Four Decades of Malaise
« Reply #4589 on: December 02, 2013, 07:57:34 pm »

Eh, we've probably already had a number of atheist popes, they just weren't public about it. Kept it on the down low, et al. Lot of those critters were more power players than pious, from what I recall.
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