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Total Members Voted: 107

[RedKing]

Now, now, not everyone in Alaska is like her. She has plenty of critics there, too.

people in a region not being exactly the same as a prominent person from said region? now that's unpossible

generalizations are evil things and i have no idea from where you guys got that i were going more along the "shit let's not take in american citizens they're going to shoot us in the face when they see us and that is horrible" route because red scare i mean the communist trifecta should be a hint here

Yes, but Americans stereotyping other Americans based on their state of residence is American as Mom, apple pie, baseball and hating New Jersey.

[LordSlowpoke]

Now, now, not everyone in Alaska is like her. She has plenty of critics there, too.

people in a region not being exactly the same as a prominent person from said region? now that's unpossible

generalizations are evil things and i have no idea from where you guys got that i were going more along the "shit let's not take in american citizens they're going to shoot us in the face when they see us and that is horrible" route because red scare i mean the communist trifecta should be a hint here

Yes, but Americans stereotyping other Americans based on their state of residence is American as Mom, apple pie, baseball and hating New Jersey.

* LordSlowpoke takes notes

who do the people in new jersey hate

do they hate themselves

if they do why do they still live in new jersey, is it a banishment site or is being from new jersey a state of mind that you can't really escape from

[RedKing]

Now, now, not everyone in Alaska is like her. She has plenty of critics there, too.

people in a region not being exactly the same as a prominent person from said region? now that's unpossible

generalizations are evil things and i have no idea from where you guys got that i were going more along the "shit let's not take in american citizens they're going to shoot us in the face when they see us and that is horrible" route because red scare i mean the communist trifecta should be a hint here

Yes, but Americans stereotyping other Americans based on their state of residence is American as Mom, apple pie, baseball and hating New Jersey.

* LordSlowpoke takes notes

who do the people in new jersey hate

do they hate themselves

if they do why do they still live in new jersey, is it a banishment site or is being from new jersey a state of mind that you can't really escape from

The running joke in New York is that they piled up all the garbage in New York City and pushed it across the river and named it Newark.

[misko27]

Yes, but Americans stereotyping other Americans based on their state of residence is American as Mom, apple pie, baseball and hating New Jersey.

* LordSlowpoke takes notes

who do the people in new jersey hate

do they hate themselves

if they do why do they still live in new jersey, is it a banishment site or is being from new jersey a state of mind that you can't really escape from

The running joke in New York is that they piled up all the garbage in New York City and pushed it across the river and named it Newark.

Sure smells like it; although I believe the running joke is when a person from new Jersey finds another person from New Jersey, they say "Oh cool, what exit"? The joke-answering being that the only thing of note in Jersey are the highways to other places.

Anyways, The Capital is in Chaos after the nuclear option, Obama is the current mouthpiece regarding it. Obama has refused calls to fire people in the HHS in the post-nuclear landscape (which is a term that is much, much less interesting then it sounds), but has pushed the enrollment date to March 31st. Freshman Republican Rep. Trey Radel, currently embroiled in a cocaine scandal, has refused calls to resign, checking into rehab for several months; notably, no one in the upper Republican leadership has called for him to resign, a significant break from the past. The FCC may relax restrictions on cellphones in-flight, leading to a petition to Obama to stop it.

And for the crazy segment, here is Rush Limbaugh saying changing the rules leads to legalizing rape. Or something.

[Lagslayer]

And for the crazy segment, here is Rush Limbaugh saying changing the rules leads to legalizing rape. Or something.

You obviously didn't actually read the article, or saw it had a Rush Limbaugh opinion, and immediately said to yourself "I better draw devil horns and a goatee on this motherfucker!", regardless of it's content. The "rape rule" scenario was hyperbolic to demonstrate the point behind it. That point being that if rules are too easy to change or ignore, then they are meaningless.

[GlyphGryph]

Uh... this is the same Rush Limbaugh that spent several years arguing the filibuster should be done away with, right? I don't think he is doing himself any favours here, then.

Also, the analogy is so retarded I can't even figure out what he's actually trying to say.

[misko27]

And for the crazy segment, here is Rush Limbaugh saying changing the rules leads to legalizing rape. Or something.

You obviously didn't actually read the article, or saw it had a Rush Limbaugh opinion, and immediately said to yourself "I better draw devil horns and a goatee on this motherfucker!", regardless of it's content. The "rape rule" scenario was hyperbolic to demonstrate the point behind it. That point being that if rules are too easy to change or ignore, then they are meaningless.

I had a rage-tinged explanation denouncing Limbaugh as quite possibly the foulest sort of being in our society, but I found this managed to make so much more sense, so much more concisely: I'd like to see why you think a rape metaphor was a reasonable thing to make. Why, say, murder wouldn't have sufficed. Or Slavery, as seems to be the fashion. Why rape, an inherently emotionally fraught topic, one of much controversy and one which people of higher levels of importance then him have lost their positions for?

I still have the explanation if you feel the need.

[Lagslayer]

And for the crazy segment, here is Rush Limbaugh saying changing the rules leads to legalizing rape. Or something.

You obviously didn't actually read the article, or saw it had a Rush Limbaugh opinion, and immediately said to yourself "I better draw devil horns and a goatee on this motherfucker!", regardless of it's content. The "rape rule" scenario was hyperbolic to demonstrate the point behind it. That point being that if rules are too easy to change or ignore, then they are meaningless.

I had a rage-tinged explanation denouncing Limbaugh as quite possibly the foulest sort of being in our society, but I found this managed to make so much more sense, so much more concisely: I'd like to see why you think a rape metaphor was a reasonable thing to make. Why, say, murder wouldn't have sufficed. Or Slavery, as seems to be the fashion. Why rape, an inherently emotionally fraught topic, one of much controversy and one which people of higher levels of importance then him have lost their positions for?

I still have the explanation if you feel the need.

I'm sorry, but what angle are you driving at, now? It looks like you are disputing the use of rape specifically, and suggesting that it is worse than murder or slavery.

Also, please elaborate on why you, specifically, hate Limbaugh so much? Though, I feel I probably already know the answer to this, I feel it is necessary to address your argument further.

[Leafsnail]

Remember when Limbaugh openly accused a woman of being a prostitute because she talked about her friend needing birth control to treat her ovarian cancer?  Or that time he said that all wanted criminals look like Jesse Jackson (wink wink, nudge nudge)?

He's a great bloke.

[Lagslayer]

Remember when Limbaugh openly accused a woman of being a prostitute because she talked about her friend needing birth control to treat her ovarian cancer?  Or that time he said that all wanted criminals look like Jesse Jackson (wink wink, nudge nudge)?

He's a great bloke.

No, I don't really keep up with specific political personalities very much. Too much shit to sift through.

Please provide links.

[Owlbread]

Or the time he allegedly said on the radio to a black caller he couldn't understand "take that bone out of your nose and call me back"?

[Leafsnail]

Those are both pretty easy to look up.

http://theweek.com/article/index/225214/rush-limbaugh-vs-sandra-fluke-a-timeline

"What does that make her?" he asks. "It makes her a slut, right? It makes her a prostitute. She wants to be paid to have sex. She's having so much sex she can't afford contraception. She wants you and me and the taxpayers to pay her to have sex."

http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=3928

"Have you ever noticed how all newspaper composite pictures of wanted criminals resemble Jesse Jackson?" (Newsday, 10/8/90)

There are some other great quotes on that page too

Limbaugh admitted to Newsday's Richard Gehr (10/8/90) that as a DJ in Pittsburgh in the 1970s he had once dismissed a black caller by saying, "Take that bone out of your nose and call me back."

Limbaugh praised former segregationist Sen. Strom Thurmond for calling a gay soldier "not normal": "He's not encumbered by being politically correct.... If you want to know what America used to be--and a lot of people wish it still were--then you listen to Strom Thurmond."

Just to be clear, this is the same Strom Thurmond who tried to filibuster the CRA and who also supports segregation.  But I guess Limbaugh is prepared to voice his support as long as he hates gay people.

[Max White]

Sounds like a real top notch bloke. I would love to know where he lives, just so I can shake his hand.
And maybe while I'm over in the states I might make use of those loose gun restrictions and pick up a firearm, just for personal reasons you understand.

[MetalSlimeHunt]

Technically speaking, his quote about Strom Thurmond isn't wrong. He just doesn't see it in the context that everybody else does.

Thurmond lives in Willowbrook Cemetary, where he has resided since his death in 2003. Oh, and he had a secret mixed-race child.

[misko27]

His claim is irrelevant. It has some merits, but it's irrelevant. I can tell you have a bit of a thing going on with "I don't subscribe to political theories", so bear with me as I sound ignorantly idealistic apparently.

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His argument is irrelevant, but even he is aware of it. I cited murder because it is a "safe" terrible thing to do: Villains on cartoon shows can do that, it's perfect hyperbole. Slavery is a reference to another person's ludicrous statements earlier. I could have cited kicking puppies, not because animal abuse is more or less bad then something else, but because it is a stereotypical hyperbolic statement. The thing though is about the rape comment. It is highly inflammatory to mention rape, especially something so far-fetched as people legalizing it, because it immediately brings a far more emotional response to people who are upset. Limbaugh knows this. He had millions of analogies and metaphors available to him, and he chose one which make people upset and disregard his point. He wants that. He acts as the shock spammer who occasionally comes in here does: To shock, to get angry, to impress his in-group. Any point, rhyme or reason the spammer might have is irrelevant, because it's not what he does, it's a side thing he uses to justify. Limbaugh is worse though. He is not doing this in some insane forum, but to the world, and to his viewers, whose most radical and unjustifiable instincts are allowed to speak in one hateful voice coming through him.

He and his class, the extremist populist demagogues who perversely claim reasonableness while running rough-shod upon it, are in my view one of the worst political players to ever arise, worse then a straw nihilist and much more dangerous. Everyone who holds the opinion that the senate should not have done what they did, or that changing rules can lead to them being broken for good (A point I find myself sympathetic too, I only conceded the need for the Rule change out of necessity), is spit upon by this man. He knows why rape is inflammatory, even if he believes it shouldn't be; he knows of people in far higher positions then he who have been destroyed by comments like these, but he is protected by his league of followers who see a outlet for their own demons.

To Paraphrase Tv tropes: "Jerkass has a point". Well in this case the inflammatory talking head has a point, but it doesn't make him or anything else he says any inflammatory, and it doesn't make him any more worthy of respect.

Technically speaking, his quote about Strom Thurmond isn't wrong. He just doesn't see it in the context that everybody else does.

Thurmond lives in Willowbrook Cemetary, where he has resided since his death in 2003. Oh, and he had a secret mixed-race child.

Thurmond also holds the record for longest Filibuster, of the Civil rights act, for more the 24 hours (he recited the criminal code of the states for much of it).