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Bay12 Presidential Focus Polling 2016

Ted Cruz
- 7 (6.5%)
Rick Santorum
- 16 (14.8%)
Michelle Bachmann
- 13 (12%)
Chris Christie
- 23 (21.3%)
Rand Paul
- 49 (45.4%)

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Re: FearfulJesuit's American Politics Megathread Two: Vote Kony 2016
« Reply #3900 on: October 23, 2013, 07:43:23 am »

Aren't you/didn't you used to be/am I confused again/ohdearI'vegonecrosseyed a hardcore Republican?

I was a bit militaristic for awhile and was the resident right person for awhile, but I'm really just overly random in things. I'd delve more, but looking into my old posts is . . . painful.
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Re: FearfulJesuit's American Politics Megathread Two: Vote Kony 2016
« Reply #3901 on: October 23, 2013, 08:24:09 am »

Do people in American territories (like f ex Costa Rica) get American citizenship automatically, or would they be considered immigrants?
The Republic of Costa Rica is an independent nation. I assume you are talking about the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico. But yes, if you are born in a US territory you have citizenship. Notably, the US territories are the only places in the universe where American citizens are not allowed to vote in federal elections. So long as you are not inside one, you can send an absentee ballot from wherever you are.
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Re: FearfulJesuit's American Politics Megathread Two: Vote Kony 2016
« Reply #3902 on: October 23, 2013, 09:17:44 am »

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Interesting...

I had to take this thing in my High School senior social studies class, and less than a year, I've nearly reflected my graph :o
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Re: FearfulJesuit's American Politics Megathread Two: Vote Kony 2016
« Reply #3903 on: October 23, 2013, 09:27:48 am »

Oh, that rigged thing again?

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Re: FearfulJesuit's American Politics Megathread Two: Vote Kony 2016
« Reply #3904 on: October 23, 2013, 10:14:35 am »

Do people in American territories (like f ex Costa Rica) get American citizenship automatically, or would they be considered immigrants?
The Republic of Costa Rica is an independent nation. I assume you are talking about the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico. But yes, if you are born in a US territory you have citizenship. Notably, the US territories are the only places in the universe where American citizens are not allowed to vote in federal elections. So long as you are not inside one, you can send an absentee ballot from wherever you are.

Puerto Rico is obviously the capital of Costa Rica. Don't you try to fool me, MSH! I know my Spanish too well.
Also yes. Yes, I meant that.

its pretty interesting territories aren't even allowed to vote for president. Where's that "representation" thing gone, America? :P
Basically, if I were Puerto Rican I'd get that whole statehood thing over with already just to get a say. I'd imagine that makes for a pretty convincing argument there too.
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Re: FearfulJesuit's American Politics Megathread Two: Vote Kony 2016
« Reply #3905 on: October 23, 2013, 10:15:59 am »

its pretty interesting territories aren't even allowed to vote for president. Where's that "representation" thing gone, America? :P
Basically, if I were Puerto Rican I'd get that whole statehood thing over with already just to get a say. I'd imagine that makes for a pretty convincing argument there too.
I think you basically just answered your own question  - it's an incentive to follow procedure and achieve statehood.
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Re: FearfulJesuit's American Politics Megathread Two: Vote Kony 2016
« Reply #3906 on: October 23, 2013, 10:24:07 am »

I think everyone here knows what I'd do if I was Puerto Rican.

Hawaii's still part of the US yanno.

Yes. It shouldn't be but it is.
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Re: FearfulJesuit's American Politics Megathread Two: Vote Kony 2016
« Reply #3907 on: October 23, 2013, 10:27:24 am »

...Talk a lot about Scotland?
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Re: FearfulJesuit's American Politics Megathread Two: Vote Kony 2016
« Reply #3908 on: October 23, 2013, 10:32:40 am »

Probably yes. The most Scottish Puerto Rican there ever was. Joking aside, a large estate not too far from me used to be the location for the Mexican embassy in the UK.

I also took that test again.



Apparently I have the same political views as Dutchling.
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Re: FearfulJesuit's American Politics Megathread Two: Vote Kony 2016
« Reply #3909 on: October 23, 2013, 10:49:02 am »


I guess that means I'll vote for Kony too.

I'm not sure why I am a libertarian according to this thing. I "Strongly agreed" with all business surveillance related questions...
Those 2-axis political compasses have separate axes for "economic" and "social" freedoms, although they vary in the labeling based on the ideology of the person constructing the graph. Left/Right is economic freedom (Free Enterprise on the right, Socialism and/or Anarchism on the left). The Authoritarian / Libertarian axis is personal / social issues: e.g. abortion, religion, drug use, etc.

Being anti-business puts you on the "left" of the horizontal axis, and being liberal in personal choice makes you a "libertarian". There are both left-libertarians (e.g Anarcho-Syndicalism and decentralized socialism.) vs right-libertarians (e.g. Anarcho-capitalists). The base terminology "Libertarian" has been appropriated in modern times to only refer to right-libertarians, hence the confusion. Additionally, left-libertarians generally have other terms terms to describe themselves, such as anarchist.
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Re: FearfulJesuit's American Politics Megathread Two: Vote Kony 2016
« Reply #3910 on: October 23, 2013, 11:13:13 am »

Additionally, left-libertarians generally have other terms terms to describe themselves, such as anarchist.

Or liberal.
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Re: FearfulJesuit's American Politics Megathread Two: Vote Kony 2016
« Reply #3911 on: October 23, 2013, 11:14:58 am »

Additionally, left-libertarians generally have other terms terms to describe themselves, such as anarchist.

Or liberal.

But in Europe a liberal is right wing...
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Re: FearfulJesuit's American Politics Megathread Two: Vote Kony 2016
« Reply #3912 on: October 23, 2013, 11:18:52 am »

But in Europe a liberal is right wing...

Still to the left of the rest of the world.
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Re: FearfulJesuit's American Politics Megathread Two: Vote Kony 2016
« Reply #3913 on: October 23, 2013, 11:24:18 am »

In Europe, a liberal a a fiscal conservative/social liberal mix in American parlance. In most of the world, liberalism actually refer to what is know as economic conservatism in the US.
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Re: FearfulJesuit's American Politics Megathread Two: Vote Kony 2016
« Reply #3914 on: October 23, 2013, 11:25:01 am »

Spoiler: Might as well... (click to show/hide)

I'm very much not an anarchist, though. An democratic socialist, perhaps.
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