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Ted Cruz

7 (6.5%)

Rick Santorum

16 (14.8%)

Michelle Bachmann

13 (12%)

Chris Christie

23 (21.3%)

Rand Paul

49 (45.4%)

Total Members Voted: 107

[Darvi]

I almost broke my desk reading that title.

[Urist Imiknorris]

I almost broke my desk reading that title.

I think it's the stupidest title I've ever read.

[MetalSlimeHunt]

KONY 2012 LIVES

(By the way, Invisible Children is still about on my college's campus, scamming people as they have for years.)

[RedKing]

A Republican congressman's reasons for voting against the debt deal.

Lesser Carolina, Y U SO CRAZY?

No, seriously....why the fuck are you like this?

[Frumple]

They're closer to florida the tri-state area. What the blazes do you expect?

[SealyStar]

A Republican congressman's reasons for voting against the debt deal.

I wish to thank my cousin and good friend Barack Hussein Obama for sending me so much American money...

[RedKing]

To be fair, Greater Carolina's traditional moral superiority in such things has been heavily eroded, given our current legislature. A recent example would be the "Save the Guns Act", which forbids state and local law enforcement from destroying confiscated firearms. Instead they have to donate them to a museum, keep them for training, or sell them to the general public. All of which were options available to them previously, but it was left to the enforcement agency's discretion.

Apparently, some gun-rights folks were concerned about the thousands of poor, innocent, defenseless firearms brutally murdered at the hands of police every year. I swear, I want to get a bumper sticker with a pistol curled up like a fetus and the caption "Life begins at manufacture."

[MetalSlimeHunt]

And what, now they're alright with the government just stockpiling all the guns they confiscate for "training"? With all the conspiracies about HomeSec's armaments you'd think that would have provoked some frenzied paranoia.

[scriver]

Standard extremist/conspiracist politician tactic. State something extemistly conspiracist, then take it back and/or even apologize for that statement. Watch how it takes root among your extremist base anyway.

In a week or two we'll have peopleon Free Republic, Moonbattery and all those sites tell it as if it was a well-known, well-grounded truth.

* scriver is feeling particularly conspiracical today.

[RedKing]

And what, now they're alright with the government just stockpiling all the guns they confiscate for "training"? With all the conspiracies about HomeSec's armaments you'd think that would have provoked some frenzied paranoia.

State and local authorities have always had the option to stockpile them for training. Thing is, how many TEC-9s do you really need? One or two, to show officers and say "This is a TEC-9. It's a cheap piece of shit. But it can still kill you."

IMHO, it really is some weird fetishistic thing where they can't abide the destruction of a firearm, as if it were an abortion of some kind. It's not even something pushed by the gun industry, because eliminating a backlog of already-sold product would just increase demand for new guns.

[scriver]

Related to how so many gun-nuts (and I'm not talking about people that just are interested in guns or shooting them here, I'm referring to the actual, very vocal, nuts) seem to think of their guns directly as their penises? They just can't stand the thought of so many manhoods being destroyed.

[Xantalos]

A Republican congressman's reasons for voting against the debt deal.

B-
Wha-
WHAT

[Bauglir]

How high do you even have to BE

[Owlbread]

To be fair, Greater Carolina's traditional moral superiority in such things has been heavily eroded, given our current legislature. A recent example would be the "Save the Guns Act", which forbids state and local law enforcement from destroying confiscated firearms. Instead they have to donate them to a museum, keep them for training, or sell them to the general public. All of which were options available to them previously, but it was left to the enforcement agency's discretion.

Apparently, some gun-rights folks were concerned about the thousands of poor, innocent, defenseless firearms brutally murdered at the hands of police every year. I swear, I want to get a bumper sticker with a pistol curled up like a fetus and the caption "Life begins at manufacture."

As an enthusiast of such things I can say that it's a nice thing for North Carolina to do and doesn't hurt anyone. It's not necessarily about it being an extension of our genitals, it's more that literally hundreds of historical weapons have been destroyed when they were confiscated in the UK as laws were tightened, including very rare pistols or rifles that should have been in museums. That law doesn't really have glocks or something in mind as much as it does, for instance, a Luger your grandfather brought back from the war or something that would be confiscated and destroyed in the event that gun control tightens up, as it probably will one day. We are talking antiques here, after all. Some of them extremely valuable.

You may suggest that guns that are only 10 years old are not antiques or historical and are not worth keeping. Indeed, some gun laws are built around clauses like that. Some of these guns though can be limited editions that are worth keeping for collection elsewhere, or even guns that have emotional significance for the shooter (such as their "first gun", or a gun that belonged to someone) and they would be quite upset to see them destroyed.

That said, I think stuff like illegally modified TEC-9s are historical pieces that are worth keeping examples of and should not be destroyed. Like the Apache pistols carried by French gangsters in the 19th century, they're significant in that they were the weapons of choice for so many criminals throughout the late 80s and early 90s. After all, what's the problem with keeping them if they're safely in the hands of the authorities? If there's too many of them, decommission them and sell them, or send them somewhere where it's legal to own them live. If there's still too many after you've done that, recycle them.

[Descan]

They need a team of gun historians to vet the guns and say "Mass produced, mass produced, antique, modified, antique, mass produced", and get rid of the mass produced (After getting a sample for future museums) and keep the antiques and modified guns for museums.

And/or a guide-book to say "This is mass produced, so is this, this, that," organized, of course, and with instructions that anything that doesn't look like one of them sends to a historian to vet it and add it to the guide book.

Of course, this is all assuming this law is actually ABOUT saving historical weaponry and significant modifications. If it's just about "DEY TOOK YER GUUUUUNS," then... Bluh.