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Ted Cruz

7 (6.5%)

Rick Santorum

16 (14.8%)

Michelle Bachmann

13 (12%)

Chris Christie

23 (21.3%)

Rand Paul

49 (45.4%)

Total Members Voted: 107

[LordSlowpoke]

Also, we have hit significant de-rail levels. At this rate of increase, we risk the situation going critical!

I refuse to re-rail the thread until the other side refuses to stop not talking about bears. You have the power to end this -- TALK ABOUT BEARS.

what if i tell you this derail is unbearable

[RedKing]

Spoiler: Fourscore and seven bears ago... (click to show/hide)

[sackhead]

Also, we have hit significant de-rail levels. At this rate of increase, we risk the situation going critical!

I refuse to re-rail the thread until the other side refuses to stop not talking about bears. You have the power to end this -- TALK ABOUT BEARS.

[mainiac]

In case anyone was wondering why this hasn't been solved yet.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

the republicans are stupid and ignorant

http://nomoremister.blogspot.com/2013/10/on-other-hand-they-are-just-this-stupid.html

[Lagslayer]

People still think the Democrats are any different from the Republicans? Sure, they use a different set of rhetoric, but in the end, both parties say that want to help you, then turn around and fuck everybody over while writing in exemptions for their buddies.

Because I believe they cannot be so stupid as to be this ineffectual unintentionally. If otherwise, then there really isn't much hope at all, and the problems will never, ever go away or get better.

[Helgoland]

That's... pretty much how the Communists got Hitler into power. "Obviously fascism is just a degenerate form of capitalism! Fighting fascism without fighting capitalism has no point!" And so they refused to work with the SPD (moderate leftists), and then democracy degenerated into a conservative autocracy (Hmmm, do we see any parallels yet?), and then these conservatives tried to set up Hitler as a puppet.

It got worse from there.

[Lagslayer]

Hitlet used the tools from the left and the right to reach a totalitarian state. Can we please tone back the Godwin's law? Down that road lies only madness.

[mainiac]

The reason why people believe democrats are different from republicans is because democrats pursue different policies in office.

This is not a matter that is open for debate because the debate is so meta that there is no point.  You have your views, we have ours.

[Lagslayer]

Where does that leave this thread?

[Frumple]

... same place it's been? News and policy with discussion of news and policy, occasionally derailed by meta discussions of varying degrees of usefulness and illumination. Ignoring the actual derails into utter unconnected stuff, of course.

[10ebbor10]

Now's the the time to invade. They'll never see it coming

[RedKing]

I am disturbed by your lack of bears.

[penguinofhonor]

I have wired internet! Wi-fi still isn't working at all, but this is better than nothing.

[Mech#4]

Now's the the time to invade. They'll never see it coming

I like that people are giving food away to people out of work. That's a nice bit of humanity there. Oh, and I can concur with the "looking-up-what-the-heck furlough meant".

[RedKing]

Now's the the time to invade. They'll never see it coming

I like that people are giving food away to people out of work. That's a nice bit of humanity there. Oh, and I can concur with the "looking-up-what-the-heck furlough meant".

But how can Brits not know that word? It's even got British spelling and everything! If it was an American word, you know we'd be spelling it ferlo or firlow or something.