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Total Members Voted: 107

[Nadaka]

To get away from the secessionist talk...

http://theweek.com/article/index/240909/who-paid-prostitutes-to-lie-about-sex-with-sen-robert-menendez

[Zangi]

Ah... character assassination.  Tried and true ain't it?

[MaximumZero]

Made the mistake of reading some of the comments. Who filled these people with stupidity and bile, and why does it always seem to come out on the internet?

[Dutchling]

Made the mistake of reading some of the comments. Who filled these people with stupidity and bile, and why does it always seem to come out on the internet?

Hehe.

you sound like one of those rude kids with know future.

[tryrar]

Made the mistake of reading some of the comments. Who filled these people with stupidity and bile, and why does it always seem to come out on the internet?

GIFT. That is all

[GlyphGryph]

I think that's been proven to be a load of bullocks. Fact is, most of these people are just as reprehensible on platforms where they have no anonymity at all.

The modified form of "no consequences" is much more reasonable. Audiance+No Consequences is more than enough incentive for a great many people to turn into raging asshats.

[kaijyuu]

Agreed with Glyph. Immunity to repercussions, and thus lack of disincentive, is why people show their true face in such situations.

[GlyphGryph]

This explains both the internet AND most frats.

[Zangi]

Doesn't help when people give it positive reinforcement or being mostly indifferent, especially people in their monkeysphere.  Strangers being disapproving have far less of an overall impact.

[kaijyuu]

On the flip side, subcultures which deserve no ire can go do their own thing without people raining on their parade. Ex: Furries.


Ultimately I prefer situations without repercussions on this sort of behavior. Mainly because wolves are out in the open rather than hiding in sheep's clothing like they do in real life, along with the above thing about subcultures.

[Strife26]

Edited point removed that I didn't really feel like pursuing.



http://www.armytimes.com/news/2013/03/military-hagel-sequestration-030113w

Hagel, who served as an Army infantry sergeant in Vietnam and was sworn in as head of the Pentagon on Wednesday, spoke shortly after President Obama announced that the sweeping budget cuts known as sequestration will officially take effect at midnight.

Those cuts will require a roughly 10 percent reduction in planned spending across all the military services.

[misko27]

I think that's been proven to be a load of bullocks. Fact is, most of these people are just as reprehensible on platforms where they have no anonymity at all.

The modified form of "no consequences" is much more reasonable. Audiance+No Consequences is more than enough incentive for a great many people to turn into raging asshats.

Exactly. This is how society functions. It's the purpose of names and any ID, to make you not able to escape your past.

[Zangi]

I think that's been proven to be a load of bullocks. Fact is, most of these people are just as reprehensible on platforms where they have no anonymity at all.

The modified form of "no consequences" is much more reasonable. Audiance+No Consequences is more than enough incentive for a great many people to turn into raging asshats.

Exactly. This is how society functions. It's the purpose of names and any ID, to make you not able to escape your past.

Cause there are people who instead of getting their kicks directly being assholish... get their kicks from digging up the dirt in the name of 'social justice' and distributing it.  Destroying someone else without consequences.

It goes both ways, trolling can and will get more personal.  Can it be classified as bullying if it gets to that?

[GlyphGryph]

misko, most of the population doesn't CARE if their name or id is attached to their actions, because as long as they aren't acting within their own immediate monkey sphere (aren't shitting where they eat) there are not going to be any consequences of note.

The internet gives people opportunities to be vile more often and find a supportive audience for it. Anonymity, imo, barely plays a role in that. The only exception is if people are in a situation where they can face serious consequences for their actions, but the number of people who post this sort of stuff under their own name or even with their facebook account have put a lie to the fact that "names" and "id" and "being unable to escape from your past" are somehow enough to do put a dent in that behaviour, when they aren't.

[SalmonGod]

I'm going to second the comment about positive reinforcement.  I think it's more significant in explaining the ugly side of internet culture than anonymity.  People don't do these things just to chuckle about it to themselves.  The internet is, unfortunately, a place where even the worst ideas and behaviors can find reinforcement.  It's all about the attention.  Trolling has even been gained a weird sort of respect in internet culture as an art form, and it's way too easy for people to gain respect or encouragement just for being an asshole.