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Ted Cruz

7 (6.5%)

Rick Santorum

16 (14.8%)

Michelle Bachmann

13 (12%)

Chris Christie

23 (21.3%)

Rand Paul

49 (45.4%)

Total Members Voted: 107

[smeeprocket]

Yea, nothing will come of this. These things are usually released strategically. Albeit this one seems kind of early, but then again, when it was discovered that the CDC was doing tests on black males with syphilis rather than treating them for it, it was still happening, in the 70s. (they promised to stop once those people died tho, so happy ending.)

These discoveries happen all the time, almost no one, if anyone gets punished, the American public briefly pretends to be shocked but doesn't really care and goes on their way.

I still feel very betrayed by Obama for not closing down Guantanamo. That was one of his big promises. Putting the detainees on legal crowd with legal rights.

Yeah, except you'll run into the 'not in my backyard' phenomenon, that is, nobody really wants to have them. Still, even if that WERE the case, just stick them into a federally funded prison rather than a state one.

It's really not a simple thing to just close quantanamo, and I'm not trying to make excuses, it really isn't as simple as 'hey guys, we're closing this!'.

My opinion, make the reddest state take them. I blame them for this crap anyway. Just force them to build the prison. Executive order.

[smjjames]

Yea, nothing will come of this. These things are usually released strategically. Albeit this one seems kind of early, but then again, when it was discovered that the CDC was doing tests on black males with syphilis rather than treating them for it, it was still happening, in the 70s. (they promised to stop once those people died tho, so happy ending.)

These discoveries happen all the time, almost no one, if anyone gets punished, the American public briefly pretends to be shocked but doesn't really care and goes on their way.

I still feel very betrayed by Obama for not closing down Guantanamo. That was one of his big promises. Putting the detainees on legal crowd with legal rights.

Yeah, except you'll run into the 'not in my backyard' phenomenon, that is, nobody really wants to have them. Still, even if that WERE the case, just stick them into a federally funded prison rather than a state one.

It's really not a simple thing to just close quantanamo, and I'm not trying to make excuses, it really isn't as simple as 'hey guys, we're closing this!'.

My opinion, make the reddest state take them. I blame them for this crap anyway. Just force them to build the prison. Executive order.

That's going to vary by opinion and by year, it might be Alabama http://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/2014/11/celebrating_the_reddest_of_the.html (probably biased), either Alaska, Idaho, Kansas, or Mississippi http://time.com/3536420/republican-democratic-states/ Wyoming and Utah http://www.politico.com/story/2014/01/reddest-bluest-states-102794.html

[Zanzetkuken The Great]

My opinion, make the reddest state take them. I blame them for this crap anyway. Just force them to build the prison. Executive order.

...why do you think conservatives would want them?

[smeeprocket]

My opinion, make the reddest state take them. I blame them for this crap anyway. Just force them to build the prison. Executive order.

...why do you think conservatives would want them?

I don't, but this is their baby.

[Zanzetkuken The Great]

My opinion, make the reddest state take them. I blame them for this crap anyway. Just force them to build the prison. Executive order.

...why do you think conservatives would want them?

I don't, but this is their baby.

Considering how it was established two months after 9/11, I doubt that there wasn't quite a bit of support from the Democrats as well upon its creation.

[smeeprocket]

My opinion, make the reddest state take them. I blame them for this crap anyway. Just force them to build the prison. Executive order.

...why do you think conservatives would want them?

I don't, but this is their baby.

Considering how it was established two months after 9/11, I doubt that there wasn't quite a bit of support from the Democrats as well upon its creation.

I'm sure there was, but since they were lied to by the conservative leaders, and Bush was pushing this crap so hard for 'MURICA, a red state needs to take the hit.

Plus you guys spend all your time justifying torture. It's only appropriate that you take the repercussions that come with imprisoning and torturing people without due process.

[Zanzetkuken The Great]

Plus you guys spend all your time justifying torture. It's only appropriate that you take the repercussions that come with imprisoning and torturing people without due process.

Why are you assuming I'm conservative?

[smeeprocket]

Plus you guys spend all your time justifying torture. It's only appropriate that you take the repercussions that come with imprisoning and torturing people without due process.

Why are you assuming I'm conservative?

well you're arguing for them, I assumed you had a vested interest in this. A dog in the hunt.

Are you not conservative? Or are you just playing hard to get?

[Baffler]

You are calling for the collective punishment of Alabamans for the actions of the Federal government.

[smeeprocket]

You are calling for the collective punishment of Alabamans for the actions of the Federal government.

It's not really punishment, it's not like we are arming them and releasing them into the swamp.

I am good with it being Alabama though. Hell, make it Florida, I live there and it would ease my mind regardless.

[FearfulJesuit]

And everyone wonders why otherwise normal conservatives are so eager to paint coastal liberals as a bunch of arrogant, stuck-up, petulant hypocrites.

[smjjames]

You are calling for the collective punishment of Alabamans for the actions of the Federal government.

It's not really punishment, it's not like we are arming them and releasing them into the swamp.

I am good with it being Alabama though. Hell, make it Florida, I live there and it would ease my mind regardless.

Wait, who said anything about collectively punishing Alabama?

Deep in Alaska would be good, discourage escape attempts because tough environment, also bears.

[smeeprocket]

And everyone wonders why otherwise normal conservatives are so eager to paint coastal liberals as a bunch of arrogant, stuck-up, petulant hypocrites.

Harsh. I don't know how that makes me any of that. I volunteered my state.

I don't think it's acceptable to have Guantanamo open. We could just release everyone. The point is, it has to go. it's wrong on every level. We can't just hold them forever, especially in a place where they don't have rights.

[Zanzetkuken The Great]

Are you not conservative? Or are you just playing hard to get?

I'm acting as what could be termed 'Devil's Advocate'.  Most of the posters in this thread are in favor of Democrats or have similar ideals.  I'd be posting quite a bit of what the Democrats have done wrong if I could be arsed, as there seems to be a large amount against the Republicans, but nothing against the Democrats.

Harsh. I don't know how that makes me any of that. I volunteered my state.

I don't think it's acceptable to have Guantanamo open. We could just release everyone. The point is, it has to go. it's wrong on every level. We can't just hold them forever, especially in a place where they don't have rights.

There's people who deserve to be there.  Releasing them would be...unwise to say the least.

[FearfulJesuit]

And everyone wonders why otherwise normal conservatives are so eager to paint coastal liberals as a bunch of arrogant, stuck-up, petulant hypocrites.

Harsh. I don't know how that makes me any of that. I volunteered my state.

I don't think it's acceptable to have Guantanamo open. We could just release everyone. The point is, it has to go. it's wrong on every level. We can't just hold them forever, especially in a place where they don't have rights.

Painting "red states" as a monolithic, irredeemable entity is a pretty good indication of being an insufferable, sanctimonious liberal, yes.