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Bay12 Presidential Focus Polling 2016

Ted Cruz
- 7 (6.5%)
Rick Santorum
- 16 (14.8%)
Michelle Bachmann
- 13 (12%)
Chris Christie
- 23 (21.3%)
Rand Paul
- 49 (45.4%)

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Re: FearfulJesuit's American Politics Megathread Two: Election Boogaloo
« Reply #615 on: March 18, 2013, 01:45:42 pm »

You've clearly never met an American militia group. There's a reason the FBI and HomeSec keep an eye on them.
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Re: FearfulJesuit's American Politics Megathread Two: Election Boogaloo
« Reply #616 on: March 18, 2013, 02:07:01 pm »

Yes, egging on american militias is akin to pouring gasoline on everything and giving the match to a toddler.
 
They tend to be more fascist then LCS. Seriously. On par with the Freikorps in Germany following WW1.
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Re: FearfulJesuit's American Politics Megathread Two: Election Boogaloo
« Reply #617 on: March 18, 2013, 02:35:03 pm »

Quite simply, the two parties are so powerful because they are so weak. If they had strong ideological lines that their members were expected to follow, regardless of region or level of office, then there would be far more space for regional parties to grow and form their own national coalitions. But I doubt that such party unity is ever going to be on the cards for a nation like the US.

Which is why the Republican side of things has fallen apart of late. Dogma is not a way to govern, and reactionaries are one of the loudest voices on the US-Right at the moment. It's why we see John Mccain and the likes of Lindsey Graham trying to distance themselves from that of late, they're aware they can't gerrymander the Senate and the White House. They know hard-right is not the way to present your party, or run yourself as a part of the government. Which is nice, except the die-hards like Rubio/Ryan/Paul are so entrenched that they will not go away any time soon.

So, expect 3 parties soon. Two Right-Wing, so, at least we will get something done in congress. [As the Moderate Right will gladly work with the Democrats at that point] Note: This is cautious optimism.

John "Drone first, ask questions later" McCain is a moderate, reasonable Republican? Really?
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Re: FearfulJesuit's American Politics Megathread Two: Election Boogaloo
« Reply #618 on: March 18, 2013, 03:09:27 pm »

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Reading comprehension was never your strong suit so I'll leave that, GJ.
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Re: FearfulJesuit's American Politics Megathread Two: Election Boogaloo
« Reply #619 on: March 18, 2013, 04:03:04 pm »

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Reading comprehension was never your strong suit so I'll leave that, GJ.

You described "reactionaries in the US Senate" and then used McCain and Graham as contrast. What are they, if not reactionaries?
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Re: FearfulJesuit's American Politics Megathread Two: Election Boogaloo
« Reply #620 on: March 18, 2013, 04:14:02 pm »

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Reading comprehension was never your strong suit so I'll leave that, GJ.

You described "reactionaries in the US Senate" and then used McCain and Graham as contrast. What are they, if not reactionaries?
If they're reactionaries, what the hell are folks like John Cornyn, Tom Coburn, Jon Kyl and Ted Cruz??
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Re: FearfulJesuit's American Politics Megathread Two: Election Boogaloo
« Reply #621 on: March 18, 2013, 04:22:28 pm »

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It's why we see John Mccain and the likes of Lindsey Graham trying to distance themselves from that of late, they're aware they can't gerrymander the Senate and the White House.

Reading comprehension was never your strong suit so I'll leave that, GJ.

You described "reactionaries in the US Senate" and then used McCain and Graham as contrast. What are they, if not reactionaries?
If they're reactionaries, what the hell are folks like John Cornyn, Tom Coburn, Jon Kyl and Ted Cruz??

Reactionaries too, but of an altogether different sort, and some of them have better views on certain issues. Its kinda hard to arbitrarily put people into groups of "hard right reactionary pig" and "heroic fighter for the people" when it's possible they hold great views on some things and terrible views on others. So far as civil liberties go, though, McCain and Graham are several steps behind most (though they could be argued to be above that scumbag Peter King)
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Re: FearfulJesuit's American Politics Megathread Two: Election Boogaloo
« Reply #622 on: March 18, 2013, 06:53:57 pm »

While our personal ideological arguments are absolutely fascinating, there is something rather important happening. The RNChas issued it's "Autopsy" on the election. It looks like it's recomending a shorter, less grassroots based primary, with an eye to protecting the eventual nominee from upstarts. Also immigration reform.
 
And the right is not happy.http://www.politico.com/story/2013/03/rnc-autopsy-may-rile-up-base-89010.html?hp=t2_3
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Re: FearfulJesuit's American Politics Megathread Two: Election Boogaloo
« Reply #623 on: March 18, 2013, 07:18:28 pm »

As expected.
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Re: FearfulJesuit's American Politics Megathread Two: Election Boogaloo
« Reply #624 on: March 18, 2013, 07:28:09 pm »

I wanna see the GOP double down on crazy. Nugent/Phelps 2016!!
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Re: FearfulJesuit's American Politics Megathread Two: Election Boogaloo
« Reply #625 on: March 18, 2013, 07:35:47 pm »

I wanna see the GOP double down on crazy. Nugent/Phelps 2016!!
I've heard a persistent rumor that Phelps is actually registered as a Democrat. If true, the above will never happen.
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Re: FearfulJesuit's American Politics Megathread Two: Election Boogaloo
« Reply #626 on: March 18, 2013, 07:46:57 pm »

I wanna see the GOP double down on crazy. Nugent/Phelps 2016!!
I've heard a persistent rumor that Phelps is actually registered as a Democrat. If true, the above will never happen.
Fine, Nugent/Eastwood 2016!!

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Re: FearfulJesuit's American Politics Megathread Two: Election Boogaloo
« Reply #627 on: March 18, 2013, 08:07:25 pm »

Eastwood is a nice guy who doesn't back the social conservative hardline. This is not surprising, given that he's old enough to have been involved in pre-Reagan politics.

No, we need Pat Robertson to run again to tap the true crazy.
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« Reply #628 on: March 18, 2013, 08:16:05 pm »

Nah. What we need for the crazy motherlode is for one Theodore Beale. Also known as Vox Day.
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Re: FearfulJesuit's American Politics Megathread Two: Election Boogaloo
« Reply #629 on: March 18, 2013, 08:39:06 pm »

Let the schism begin. 

Though... hopefully that would also result in change for the better with the Democrats and elections in general, down the line...
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