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CaptApollo12

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Re: I wish my markdwarfs were more aggressive.
« Reply #15 on: February 12, 2013, 03:51:05 pm »

I use my marksdwarves to shoot from a fortified bunker on a z level above the enemies. If I were to use a kill order instead of a station order my marksdwarves would follow fleeing goblins out of this area. Use station orders unless you have something rampaging IN your fort.
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Hyndis

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Re: I wish my markdwarfs were more aggressive.
« Reply #16 on: February 12, 2013, 03:58:32 pm »

I really haven't had any problems at all with my marksdwarves, but then I use them in a very simple manner.

I first construct the entrance to my fortress in such a manner that all visitors must travel through a chokepoint. Then in the middle of that chokepoint I build an armor stand, and create a barracks from it.

I then make a custom uniform with crossbows, shields, helmets, breastplate, 2 mail shirts, gauntlets, leggings, and high boots. I make 5-6 militia captains and assign them this uniform. Each squad gets an allotment of 250 bolts, which is 25 per dwarf. Remember that you must also make quivers. Quivers are not explicitly assigned in the uniform screen but you still need them.

After that is all done I'll assign the 5-6 crossbow squads (which consist of only 1 militia captain apiece) to be active/training at the barracks.

Then I go and hunt around for peasants. Any peasant I find gets assigned to the military. Its very easy to just scroll around the fortress and see what peasants are in the dining hall. They get sent into the military. I keep doing this until my military is full.

This gets me a blob of 50-60 marksdwarves packed closely together in the only entrance to the fortress. Anything attacking must go through them. The nature of the chokepoint is also great for marksdwarves. Even if the recruit marksdwarf misses their intended target, the bolt will still hit something, and massive dakka will take care of all problems.

As an added security precaution I'll make a squad of legendary+5 miners, using mining picks and full armor, and give them a barracks just behind my marksdwarves. The miners will only attack should enemies close to melee range of the marksdwarves, so the marksdwarves will do most of the fighting with the miners automatically jumping in if the marksdwarves get swamped in melee. The massive firepower of 50-60 crossbows all firing at the same target in the same direction will drop nearly anything. Only a bronze colossus is able to get past that barrage.

And then just to be extra through, behind the miners is a series of cage traps, so anything that somehow gets past all this will get caught in a cage.

I don't bother with any archery ranges or anything along those lines. I just leave them on active/training in a single barracks, and it all works out from there.


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Brays Vatrid

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Re: I wish my markdwarfs were more aggressive.
« Reply #17 on: February 12, 2013, 07:54:18 pm »

My marksdwarves are fine with shooting enemies, but refuse to train at an archery range. I've never figured out how to correct that.
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Re: I wish my markdwarfs were more aggressive.
« Reply #18 on: February 12, 2013, 07:56:48 pm »

My marksdwarves are fine with shooting enemies, but refuse to train at an archery range. I've never figured out how to correct that.
You sure you have the targets facing the right direction?
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Re: I wish my markdwarfs were more aggressive.
« Reply #19 on: February 12, 2013, 08:25:11 pm »

My marksdwarves are fine with shooting enemies, but refuse to train at an archery range. I've never figured out how to correct that.

They use the range primarily when off duty.  Just assign them to (T)rain there, make sure they have some (or all) off duty time, it faces the right way, they have bolts they are authorized to train with.

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Re: I wish my markdwarfs were more aggressive.
« Reply #20 on: February 12, 2013, 10:17:06 pm »

You sure you have the targets facing the right direction?
They use the range primarily when off duty.  Just assign them to (T)rain there, make sure they have some (or all) off duty time, it faces the right way, they have bolts they are authorized to train with.

The range is facing the right way. Didn't realize they normally use it when off-duty. I'll be sure to fix that. Thanks!
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Re: I wish my markdwarfs were more aggressive.
« Reply #21 on: February 12, 2013, 10:37:44 pm »

I use station orders occasionally, but most of the time I'm actually putting them in "Defend Burrow", with a burrow composed of my battlements. They stand there with quivers and bolts and unload on anything that tries to get in. I've gotten archery targets to work in the past, but capturing a necromancer and killing a bunch of elves again and again is quicker and more satisfying.
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