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[GlyphGryph]

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[GlyphGryph]

One more.

[Captain Ford]

PFP

Town-tells are scum-tells! The scummiest players are thus the most trustworthy.

And there it is.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Thanks, ZU.

That is a fallacy.

Rule #0 of mafia: If you have a good reason for what you did, then it isn't scummy.

Some things are different because this game is different, but scumtells still apply because there is still a scumteam. Rather than presenting a case for why particular players are rebels in spite of what appear to be scumtells, you instead argued that all towntells are scumtells, and thus all scum players are trustworthy.

(You also neglected to argue that scumtells are also towntells, and thus by your reasoning, players with both scumtells and towntells would still be more scummy)

And including a picture of the Sicilian does not make it okay.

[Captain Ford]

PFP again

I'm downvoting. I know for a fact NQT's scumteam is wrong, and the information he's working from is just bad. No team can pass without rebels voting it up, so voting up a bad team really can't be a scumtell.

I'm sorry NQT, but you've made me regret backing you. Since you didn't weigh in during the last day of preparations, I have no basis for trusting your judgment now. Rebel or not, you've failed to make any coherent sense, and since you failed to answer any of my queries leading up to this, you're pretty completely betrayed the trust I put in you.

Not because you put up a team I didn't agree with, but because you've done a terrible job of making your case.

I'm objecting to the team itself because Tiruin is on it, mostly.


On another note, Dariush upvoting makes sense, because from his POV, the next two organizers are spies.

[Leafsnail]

That means Dariush will be proved wrong after this team fails then

[zombie urist]

Pfp can we get an extend on my pick?

[Captain Ford]

LS: I can't imagine it going down any other way.

ZU: Why?

[zombie urist]

definately busy tmr busy half day sat at least pfp.

[notquitethere]

Ford, the Sicilian was there to show that I was talking ironically. I'm really not that dumb. I'm sorry you feel your trust has been misplaced. I've maybe come across as a little bit crazy these last few days, but frankly I don't know enough to guess the scum team and make a case so I'd rather my team fail and we have more time to look at votes and what people have said and so on. I don't think Tiruin is a spy for the reasons I've given, but these are reasons that no one else (not even Tiruin) gives any weight to, so what can I say?

[ToonyMan]

> It would be hard enough to see that if Toaster/LS was scum - they'd both sabotage. I know I didn't sabotage.

This is something I want to point out.  The possibility of Toaster and Leafsnail both being spies is so low it's not even funny.  The reason is they tossed their victory for the first "third mission".  So I also agree that only one of you is a spy.  I'm largely leaning on you because of how you're behaving, but the third spy being either Toaster or Leafsnail is certainly still possible even if I don't really believe it anymore.

NQT's latest posts have been a complete joke and it kind of hurts you when you side with what he thinks scum-hunting in this game means.

And with ZU 99% confirmed spy that doesn't leave any choices left.

Posting this ahead of time because of the lack of time.

Spoiler: Appeal to Toony's blood pressure (click to show/hide)

Please don't get worked up about what I said. Why I'm using those statements is because I've noticed we're going fully on possibilities here. Outing people and considering others just like a Mafia game. Logical fallacies and illogical statements are scumtells - yes, I agree and have been prodding you to see your viewpoint, that seemed to be the wrong course of action - but that is in a Mafia game.

This is not a Mafia game, but almost one, mostly due to how Mafia-esque games include the mode of thought into them.

Logical fallacies and such, there is no apparent basis on catching scum but by their words - no roleflips, no categorized scumtells, no setting people's alignments in stone. Scum have an advantage of a whole day's talk before their field work. Most missions take only one person to destroy it and cause chaos among who committed to the mission.

This deals with dealing with players. How to communicate.

M1,2,3 & 5 all need one spy to be victorious.

Mission number:
3
4
4
5 - This mission requires TWO attempts to sabotage in order to cause it to fail.
5

Our clincher lies with M4. Needing only this and the third to pass, then its an all out on the fifth to get things right. Another, ulterior reason on why I'm considering every and all passages of logic is because I'm wondering how others view scumhunting in this way - yours follows the conventional method, (and also pokes at the 'not understanding my posts' again :/) but anyway, that's all there is in my explanation.

Yeah, I'm nuts that way, but its better than relying on percentages.

I'm not sure how this explains how acting irrational isn't a bad thing.

[ToonyMan]

If I had to pick either Toaster or Leafsnail right now instead of Tiruin for spy, it would be Toaster.  This is mainly just bad mojo but his far-back attitude and telling me to not bother with Tiruin feels lazy.  (also constant buddying hint hint)

It still wouldn't explain Captain Ford's team though.  Unless NQT and Nerjin both really are rebels, but I just can't believe that right now.

[zombie urist]

I'm actually considering
Ford
Nerjin
Toaster/Tiruin
Dariush

Hmm...

[Nerjin]

I'm actually considering
Ford
Nerjin
Toaster/Tiruin
Dariush

Hmm...

I'm game, come on guys let's do this team! Obviously the confirmed spy is putting up the best possible team for the town. [/sarcasm.]

[Captain Ford]

Ugh...

I didn't really have enough time to let that all sink in and I knew I wasn't really going to. I'm pretty exhausted tonight, but I'm going to go over this again.

NQT: I guess I'm just having a hard time following your reasoning, then, because that's the only place that popped out at me while I was browsing at work.

[Captain Ford]

EBWOP: "...only thing that popped out at me..."