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[ToonyMan]

Ford: can you elaborate on each of your choices? Or are you basing this completely on math?

Are you even reading the thread?

[ToonyMan]

Actually actually... its pretty likely that LS is spy. Its hard to say between LS and Dariush which one is the spy. I'm leaning LS since he's been very quick to change his opinions and his cases have been kinda weak.

Can't you choose both?

Also you ignored me!  I do want some reasoning here.

[zombie urist]

pfp. I did "choose both" on my proposed zu ford toony toaster team. also i dont seeanythingother tnan the combos.

[Leafsnail]

Do you have an opinion on this team Nerjin

[Nerjin]

Captain Ford
ToonyMan
notquitethere
Nerjin

Well I'm sure about 3/4 of the team but the NQT portion unsettles me a bit. I think I'm going to Re-PM glyph and ask for my Up to be changed to down. Originally I thought this may be an alright team but as time passes I doubt NQT more.

[zombie urist]

Ehh...

How long do we have to get votes in?

[Leafsnail]

Who would you want to replace NQT with

Three days according to the OP.

[zombie urist]

I would like Tiruin to state his vote on this team in a way that is totally unambiguous.

[Nerjin]

Toaster or Dariush. Despite the latters... Unpleasantness I trust that he's town. Toaster also has seemed to be relatively town.

[Tiruin]

I would like Tiruin to state his vote on this team in a way that is totally unambiguous.

Captain Ford
ToonyMan
notquitethere
Nerjin

So upvoting this.

Read.

[Toaster]

Nerjin:

Toaster or Dariush. Despite the latters... Unpleasantness I trust that he's town. Toaster also has seemed to be relatively town.

On both, why?

On that note, you never answered me here:

Nerjin:

Zombie Urist: This is the one I’m LEAST pushing. Just in the time he’s been with us I feel he’s acted mostly trustworthy.

How so?

Actually, this totally contradicts what you said earlier:

I propose [as it were] this team.

ToonyMan: That god *donut* piece of *spinach* WIFOM with the role-name thing still *pineapple*s me to no end. But other than that he has seemed relatively town with an excellent scum-hunting capability.

Nerjin: I am me and I know I am town however as I don’t think it’d be wise to pick me [as everyone would downvote] we shall move on.

Captain Ford: You put a lot of effort into finding scum and I approve of that. While you seem WAY to easily swayed through emotional appeal I think you’re logical enough to trust.

Zombie Urist: This is the one I’m LEAST pushing. Just in the time he’s been with us I feel he’s acted mostly trustworthy.

Why the change?

[Captain Ford]

To add to my reasons for putting up that team so hastily, I had to work today and have plans all day tomorrow. I don't have the same amount of time to invest in the game as I did the last few days.

Also, it occurred to me that Toony can't actually become the organizer this round.


ZU: Based purely on reads. The math was included because it runs contrary to what most everyone has been saying in thread.

Tiruin: Your upvote surprised me.

Nerjin: Can you be more specific about why you doubt NQT?
I'm as confident as I can be that this team is composed entirely of rebels. You're the one I'm least certain of.

Leafsnail/ZU: I'm pretty sure we have 24 hours to vote.

[Tiruin]

Tiruin: Your upvote surprised me.

It's a revelation, I know. Anyway, I'm getting better now :/ Sorry for before.

Could I ask why though? What was coursing thru your head when your read over my post?

ZU: Why are you asking me about my vote? While, yes, I understand the implications of such, that's what it is. And to further that question, could I ask how your read is on me? On Dariush? On Nerjin?

[Captain Ford]

Tiruin: Your upvote surprised me.

It's a revelation, I know. Anyway, I'm getting better now :/ Sorry for before.

Could I ask why though? What was coursing thru your head when your read over my post?

Huh. I thought I'd elaborated more when I wrote that.

I was going to say, "but I shouldn't have. You were openly skeptical of the case against Nerjin quite a while ago, and I don't think you ever really said much about NQT."

You've really been the most open-minded person in the game. That's both a point in your favor and a point against.

I also agree that having leaders you can trust is important. Possibly even more important than the actual teams themselves. I don't fault people for voting based on their own suspicions, of course. But at some point, we do have to roll the dice on somebody, and somebody's got to compromise. Spies can always upvote a team with a spy while simultaneously saying they'll downvote. They can win that way, so the only way to win is if the rebels can somehow manage to defy them.

The thing is, the rebels are probably going to disagree. Since the spies can win just by getting a team they like through, the rebels can't win if they keep defeating winning teams. The only effective way for rebels to unite is for them to put their faith in a leader they can trust, and let him roll the dice.

...and that isn't necessarily me. I'm just saying that if five of the six rebels can't somehow agree, they can't win.

[Tiruin]

...and that isn't necessarily me. I'm just saying that if five of the six rebels can't somehow agree, they can't win.

Indeed.

Anyway, before I rush off to school and microbio (), here's my reads. I've always assumed no scum performed a lie low option unless they've somehow made up a plan:

LS - Scum via process of elimination and his attitude in persuasion.
ZU - wavering scum, while his posts are filled with brevity - the usual, I guess D: - there is a tinge in how he words them or approaches a topic that tells me there's something up with his reasoning.

Dariush - Town despite his vulgar verbosity, judgement via association in his team pick. Nothing else persuaded me.
ToonyMan - Town. Any argument otherwise would make him be confused on my post (). Seriously, I do believe he's town for his methods in trying to determine who's scum and who isn't. Holding a level eye on everyone else and taking in information without bias.
notquitethere - Town-ish, logician. He's taking into account the number and math along with Ford. To be frank, sounds like mason-buddies here in their association, debating the consequences and chopping up the numbers up. Still, his analysis doesn't seem to be lacking nor cyclic in manner. What is your read btw?
Toaster - town by virtue of elimination and personality in posting. Reasonable in the way that he holds skepticism not to an overt degree, but isn't lenient in giving it out.
Nerjin - town-ish. Like I said before, while his pleas by emotion are...generally not a way to persuade, his sincerity comes in the fact that if he was scum, he'd try harder to not look like scum.
Ford - said so above.

Deathsword - x_x

GlyphGryph - one of the best mods out there. Leans Spy because of his flavorful flavor.

Ottofar - spoiled spectator. I'm wondering how much fun he's having...