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[Djohaal]

Gentlemen, after much sciencing on modded factorio, we have managed to prove the second law of thermodynamics to be false:

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*(Yukoi industries modpack)

If you are lost, yukoi has both torque pased generators and motors, which you can use to produce and consume torque. We managed to multiply the torque's power and extract net energy.

[BigD145]

Someone failed at maths.

[Djohaal]

Someone failed at maths.

Not sure if you meant the dev or me. The numbers don't add up because the 10-minute graph shows an average production for the time interval (thus including the portion where the steam turbines were still on). But if you look at the graph itself it we cut out the steam power and the engines are running on self-sufficient magic juice for a good while. On 20 minute mark so far, no sign of slowing down.

[Girlinhat]

So basically, you can rotate an axle for 10 power, and then use the axle to power a turbine that produces 15 power.  More complicated, but there's the ELI5.  Great stuff!

[Djohaal]

Anyone would like to play? I have the modpack in my dropbox, server isn't on everyday but we can figure something out.

[BigD145]

I've been wanting to try out one of the megamods.

[miauw62]

Hm, I'm considering buying this but I'm not entirely sure.

[n9103]

Well, Big D actually endorsed it so I'd say that's a pretty big vote of confidence in purchase.

[Mephansteras]

I'm pretty sure you can download a demo for it from the site.

[BigD145]

Well, Big D actually endorsed it so I'd say that's a pretty big vote of confidence in purchase.

Psh. I have quirky likes and dislikes like anyone else. Factorio is nice in that it has no problem with the user making messy or clean builds and multiplayer lets both get together and piss each other off (or work out a middle road, but who wants that). Factorio is pretty darn accessible. You can ignore most of the custom wiring and do fine.

[miauw62]

So I bought this and it's pretty fun! I completed the first New Hope mission (After almost running out of iron). I also almost hit the map's edges. And used long-reach inserters because I didnt realize underground conveyors were a thing.

I'm sooort of intimidated by all this, to be honest.

[Aklyon]

Build a giant, messy factory with all sorts of uses. Your normal nonscenario map does not have edges.

Then once you have blueprints/redprints & construction robots, take it apart and build it nicer, since by then you'll probably have found a more effective, or at least less messy, factory design. (Alternately, replace winding confused belt lines with logistics robots, logistics chests, & roboports, leave the big furnace export belts intact, and let the robots sort out how to organize it)

[BigD145]

More multiplayer, damnit. (too much real job to multiplayer)

[miauw62]

Well, here is my first lab setup: (cannibalizing the first new hope mission setup) http://i.imgur.com/JFJyjj4.png (very big)

[n9103]

Yep, looks about the same as my first few bases
This thread on the Factorio forums is chock full of ideas that you can use in building a base.