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[Remuthra]

Do paladins get ressurection? I think they do, but I'm not sure.

[Darvi]

Nope. The closest that they do get are Restoration and Deathward.

[Remuthra]

Nope. The closest that they do get are Restoration and Deathward.

Alright, thanks.

[Darvi]

There's probably a prestige class somewhere that allows them to cast 5th level spells, though (and if there is, it's not called "Cleric").

[Remuthra]

There's probably a prestige class somewhere that allows them to cast 5th level spells, though (and if there is, it's not called "Cleric").

Hold on there, what if I have +5 wisdom? I would get the ability to cast 5th level spells, but there's none listed. There could be a loophole here.

[Rolepgeek]

No. That's like saying a fighter with 13 Intelligence can cast 3rd level spells. Paladins only get up to fourth.

On another note, We could take a Kolaryut. There's six of us, at level 8. That's a level 13 encounter. We are a CR 13 group.

[Darvi]

Well I think we can all agree on that the ground is always there for you when you fall.

Unless you're on the elemental plane of air or something, of course.

[Rolepgeek]

Renark's a Deep Dwarf. They rarely see the light of day. So yeah, he likes the ground...

[GreatWyrmGold]

On another note, We could take a Kolaryut. There's six of us, at level 8. That's a level 13 encounter. We are a CR 13 group.

EL =/= ECL
An 8th-level fighter is an EL 8 encounter, but he can't substitute for a whole level 8 party.

[tryrar]

Besides, you destroy the first one sent after you, you might just piss of the entire plane of Law enough that they send a whole mess of them after you

As for your point GWG, in order :

1)Maybe

2)possibly

3)Nope

[Nivim]

(...that prestige class that lets you give appropriate scales to the chameleon...)

Which one?

That expensive one here; twas linked among those on the fifth post.

[Rolepgeek]

Two creatures of a certain CR are an ECL of two higher than their CR. Double it again and it raises two more. Add another 50% and it becomes one higher. Thus, CR 13.

[Darvi]

If anything, we can take on a CR9 monster. CR 11 or 10 if it's a boss. Encounters are usually made for a party of four with an average level of its CR. So 4 level 8 characters can take on a CR8 monster, 6 (an 50% increase), like us, a CR9 one. We'd need a couple of level ups to have a fair fighting chance.

[Remuthra]

Two creatures of a certain CR are an ECL of two higher than their CR. Double it again and it raises two more. Add another 50% and it becomes one higher. Thus, CR 13.

In addition, such an encounter would be much later, after we clear the catacombs. We'll probably be higher level by then.
Ninjas!

[Rolepgeek]

...No. We'd be able to beat it, it's just that we'd have a rough go of it. An NPC party of 6 level 8 characters is still a level 13 encounter; in the sense that four level 13 adventurers should need to use about a fifth of their resources to beat them; aka, a pretty easy fight.