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[Jazzer]

Has anyone else found that, upon breaching the first cavern layer, the only megabeasts you receive after that point are forgotten beasts? Seems to happen in most of my forts, across several different versions of the game. I'm not necessarily complaining, as they are as enjoyable a challenge as most other things, but it would be nice to see the occasional dragon and/or bronze colossus.

[Fishybang]

Megabeasts will attack around 80 dwarves and like 100,000,000 in wealth i think.

[Jazzer]

Yeah, that's not a problem, generally. Just seems strange that the world should be populated by so many more forgotten beasts than everything else, combined.

[TheZoomZoll]

You can change the requirement's for a megabeast invasion in the advanced world gen.
Just scroll down enough when you selected a parameter.

[Jazzer]

I suspected that there would be something like this. However, is that really the only option? Have other people not had the same issue?

[Jazzer]

Upon reflection, Forgotten beasts generally come out pretty pansy. In my latest fortress, both of the ones to arrive (still early days) were killed off single-handedly by my champion, a spearmaster with iron gear. Kinda lame.

[thegoatgod_pan]

It is just that nothing culls F.b.s and nothign restrains their number. Even small young worlds can have 30+ forgotten beasts roaming the caverns, but only 1-3 dragons, 4-5 cyclposes etc. Also increasing the number of caves in worldgen drastically ups the number of surface megabeasts.

[simonthedwarf]

Doesnt that also make worldgen unable to compile because of megabeasts toppling the civilizations

What particuar setting are you thinking of relating to caverns

[Tevish Szat]

Upon reflection, Forgotten beasts generally come out pretty pansy. In my latest fortress, both of the ones to arrive (still early days) were killed off single-handedly by my champion, a spearmaster with iron gear. Kinda lame.

FBs (and surface titans, but mostly FBs) are super random in how hard they are to deal with: a steam humanoid that with a venomous bite that causes brief dizziness and mild swelling of the affected area could probably be beaten by a stiff breeze.  A winged, faint yellow diamond blob with deadly dust that causes nearly instant necrosis of the brain, on the other hand, will get into your fortress through a flying-only path you didn't notice and then massacre all your dwarves without doing whatever equates to breaking a sweat for a massive blob of instadeath-spewing diamonds.

[vjek]

Having done some testing regarding this recently, this is what I've observed (YMMV);

Forgotten beasts are generated one per underground region.  If you have 75 underground regions, you will have 75 forgotten beasts.  They will all, eventually, make their way to your embark area, given enough time.

Semi-megabeasts (cyclops, minotaur, giant, ettin) each appear in/from their worldgen cave.  They do not appear to obey the "titan attack" adv. worldgen parameters.  They may follow some hardcoded parameters, but I haven't verified this.  I have created worlds filled with titans, semi-megabeasts, and forgotten beasts, and the semi-megabeasts have never attacked with 21 dwarves and millions in created wealth.  My current theory is you need more dwarves to attract/trigger them.

Megabeasts (Dragon,Hydra,Roc,Bronze colossus) - I have done no testing regarding their attack triggers, but their placement rules appear to follow those of semi-megabeasts.

Titans will make room for themselves, one per surface region.  If you only have 60 surface regions, but ask for 100 Titans, you get 60 Titans.

[puke]

Yeah, that's not a problem, generally. Just seems strange that the world should be populated by so many more forgotten beasts than everything else, combined.

I could be wrong about how this works, but I'm pretty sure that a megabeast will be specific to some region or biome or the other.  there are a finite number of megabeasts, and they have historical homes.  if that home isnt near your fort, they wont come visit.

Forgotten Beasts, on the other hand, roam the entire underground and any of them could hit you.  So while there may be an equal or larger number of mega and semi-megabeasts in total, only a tiny minority of them will be able to reach you. 

All the FBs could potentially reach you, so once you tap the caverns the odds are strongly weighted in their favor.

[Gaybarowner]

when in doubt create more rock crafts!

[Talvieno]

Has anyone else found that, upon breaching the first cavern layer, the only megabeasts you receive after that point are forgotten beasts? Seems to happen in most of my forts, across several different versions of the game. I'm not necessarily complaining, as they are as enjoyable a challenge as most other things, but it would be nice to see the occasional dragon and/or bronze colossus.

Nope, they'll show up eventually. Just keep waiting for them. They usually wait until you don't expect them - i.e. you're disassembling your main gate to rebuild it out of gold. Then they drop by for dwarf flesh tea and crumpets.

[Gaybarowner]

isnt it the higher the wealth the higher % of having visitors?

[Xaioxaiofan]

The only megabeasts I get are killed by Giant Olm spearmen with blowdarts... deep in the cavern waters.