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[GreatWyrmGold]

this discussion seems to be the clash of grey/color morality vs. black and white morality.

I suspect that it is more to do with differing interpretations of the suggestion and Donut's personality.

or just a shouting stubbornness match where the one who yells the most is most stubborn will win.

FTFY.

How about a parasitic worm that can use it host senses and take a small amount of nutriment from it host but otherwise unnoticeable. No mind control, give us spies and the other gods will be none the wiser.

Sounds good. Not ideal, but acceptable.
I think it would make sense to use fungi of some sort, since we already have made symbiotic fungus but not worms of any kind.

[Jbg97]

How about we start kidnapping people, altering their minds to obey us, and send them back. Why? Because fuck being nice.

[scapheap]

How about a parasitic worm that can use it host senses and take a small amount of nutriment from it host but otherwise unnoticeable. No mind control, give us spies and the other gods will be none the wiser.

Sounds good. Not ideal, but acceptable.
I think it would make sense to use fungi of some sort, since we already have made symbiotic fungus but not worms of any kind.

Yes well fungi grow on dead things and I for one would like living spies(First person who mention the zombie ants should think of what they are about to type.)

[GreatWyrmGold]

How about we start kidnapping people, altering their minds to obey us, and send them back. Why? Because fuck being nice.

What is wrong with this argument?
Oh yeah, it's a blatant combination of the Strawman fallacy and the Slippery Slope fallacy.

How about a parasitic worm that can use it host senses and take a small amount of nutriment from it host but otherwise unnoticeable. No mind control, give us spies and the other gods will be none the wiser.

Sounds good. Not ideal, but acceptable.
I think it would make sense to use fungi of some sort, since we already have made symbiotic fungus but not worms of any kind.

Yes well fungi grow on dead things and I for one would like living spies(First person who mention the zombie ants should think of what they are about to type.)

Fungi can also grow on/in live things, and worms in dead ones. Your point?

[Jbg97]

How about we start kidnapping people, altering their minds to obey us, and send them back. Why? Because fuck being nice.

What is wrong with this argument?
Oh yeah, it's a blatant combination of the Strawman fallacy and the Slippery Slope fallacy.

That was actually a legitimate suggestion, not an argument. I thought you would know my tendecy to try and do things like that when I play god-games.

[GreatWyrmGold]

How about we start kidnapping people, altering their minds to obey us, and send them back. Why? Because fuck being nice.

What is wrong with this argument?
Oh yeah, it's a blatant combination of the Strawman fallacy and the Slippery Slope fallacy.

That was actually a legitimate suggestion, not an argument. I thought you would know my tendecy to try and do things like that when I play god-games.

Oh.
In that case, no.

[gman8181]

Whatever we do, it should at least be able to subtly affect the behavior of the host if not have outright control when needed.  In a previous post, I already gave an example of a real life organism that affects the host's brain without killing them or causing any real damage.  Also this is a god game, so we can make it the way we want it.

[Inithis]

Damn elf god.

In other news, I missed where we got the troglodytes from. When were they introduced?

[Remuthra]

Damn elf god.

In other news, I missed where we got the troglodytes from. When were they introduced?

The dwarves gave them to us.
And does anyone else hate those damn hippie elemental sphere elves?

[kytuzian]

Our fire control extends really to heat, not just fire right? Since what's his face froze and ocean for an army to cross or whatever.

Not that we should mention it too the elf god, but control of heat is far more than just burning stuff. Its also freezing, controlling winds, and a number of other things.

[GreatWyrmGold]

Lucien is such an adorable little creator of crimes against nature...

If you look back he said as long as we refrain from directly casting on his followers :3 We aren't directly casting on them if we're channeling our power through an avatar plus the skeletons and zombies we'll fight aren't his followers are they?

Ah.
Wouldn't that make it kosher to directly cast on the god itself?
And of not, what makes making an avatar a way to game the system?

Whatever we do, it should at least be able to subtly affect the behavior of the host if not have outright control when needed.  In a previous post, I already gave an example of a real life organism that affects the host's brain without killing them or causing any real damage.  Also this is a god game, so we can make it the way we want it.

Well, I agree. However, a compromise is forged from everyone giving up something.

Damn elf god.
In other news, I missed where we got the troglodytes from. When were they introduced?

The dwarves gave them to us.
And does anyone else hate those damn hippie elemental sphere elves?

Now, now, they're not so bad. Just arrogant. This new guy's probably had a lot of successes, makes him feel cocky.

[Origami_Psycho]

Lucien is such an adorable little creator of crimes against nature...

If you look back he said as long as we refrain from directly casting on his followers :3 We aren't directly casting on them if we're channeling our power through an avatar plus the skeletons and zombies we'll fight aren't his followers are they?

Ah.
Wouldn't that make it kosher to directly cast on the god itself?
And of not, what makes making an avatar a way to game the system?

Whatever we do, it should at least be able to subtly affect the behavior of the host if not have outright control when needed.  In a previous post, I already gave an example of a real life organism that affects the host's brain without killing them or causing any real damage.  Also this is a god game, so we can make it the way we want it.

Well, I agree. However, a compromise is forged from everyone giving up something.

Damn elf god.
In other news, I missed where we got the troglodytes from. When were they introduced?

The dwarves gave them to us.
And does anyone else hate those damn hippie elemental sphere elves?

Now, now, they're not so bad. Just arrogant. This new guy's probably had a lot of successes, makes him feel cocky.

Well then, doesn't that make it our job to knock him down a couple?

[gman8181]

GWG: I'm all for compromises too, that's why I said subtle influences if we don't want to go for all out mind control.  We'll see what happens though.

Origami Psycho:  Agreed, but we have time on our side for now, so we might as well wait until we are in a better position to knock him down.

[Rolepgeek]

Here's a compromise; turn those trogolodytes into chameleon doppelgänger things to be our spies.

[Origami_Psycho]

Here's a compromise; turn those trogolodytes into chameleon doppelgänger things to be our spies.

but we already have a spy.  I think.