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Re: You are a new God OOC thread.
« Reply #825 on: January 31, 2013, 10:02:57 pm »

Assuming a speed of 20/mph, it would take the firejackets 1061 years round trip.

Assuming the sun is the same distance. But we could get them going faster than that.

A hundred miles an hour will get them back in a fifth of that time - something like 200 years.

two hundred miles, 100.

Four, 50.

Eight hundred and it's a measly 25 years.

Now, light speed - we can get them there and back in twenty seconds. Assuming that the atmosphere doesn't tear them up.

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Re: You are a new God OOC thread.
« Reply #826 on: January 31, 2013, 10:10:48 pm »

Acually, natural fusion would be a good way to produce extreme heat, which could be very useful, and there's no fallout or anything.
How on Planet will we find a use for that much heat? Especially since we would need to generate a lot of heat to make the fusion start, plus a lot of hydrogen.
For one, it would give us a few thousand firejackets. It could also be useful for creating some sort of white hot fire elemental. And perhaps we could use the heat to generate mana somehow?
1. Surely there's less destructive methods to get firejackets?
2. AKA a Collateral Damage Elemental if we use it near anything flammable.
3. Maybe, but again, there has to be a less destructive and more efficient way to do so.
4. Where would we get all that hydrogen?
1. But less effective. And less !!FUN!!
2. Things on fire work better than things not on fire- Guild of Pyromaniacs
3. Not neccesarily, we would have to see.
4. It is literally everywhere. Hydrogen is a part of MH4, H20, and many other compounds, as well as being found in the atmosphere in small amounts.
1. Effective? Sure. Efficient? Likely not, compared to (say) sending them into fireplaces or something. Safe? Heck no.
2. No, they don't. They just can't be used as long and set stuff on fire.
3. Since it would be white-hot...that sure sounds like something that would cause collateral damage.
4. How easy would it be to...god, right.

And also in stars, which I'm sure we, as a god, could reach.
We could power our mana on the suns' natural fusion if we could get some sort of generator up there...
And so begins the DSP
We should just toss some firejackets into a sun. :)
Vacuum's probably not healthy for them...

Assuming a speed of 20/mph, it would take the firejackets 1061 years round trip.
Assuming the sun is the same distance. But we could get them going faster than that.
A hundred miles an hour will get them back in a fifth of that time - something like 200 years.
two hundred miles, 100.
Four, 50.
Eight hundred and it's a measly 25 years.
Now, light speed - we can get them there and back in twenty seconds. Assuming that the atmosphere doesn't tear them up.
I'd like to question these numbers. Assuming a distance about equal to one AU, it would take a bit over 16 minutes, round-trip, to send firejackets to Sol.
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Re: You are a new God OOC thread.
« Reply #827 on: January 31, 2013, 10:15:21 pm »

We do have a friendly god of light, do we not?
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« Reply #828 on: January 31, 2013, 10:43:52 pm »

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« Reply #829 on: January 31, 2013, 10:56:29 pm »

Death by acceleration.
We're a god of life and fire and chaos.  Just turn the entire star into our own little soldier.  Send a gamma ray burst at the EoT.  That'll show them.
We can do that, right?
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Re: You are a new God OOC thread.
« Reply #830 on: January 31, 2013, 10:58:05 pm »

Death by acceleration.
We're a god of life and fire and chaos.  Just turn the entire star into our own little soldier.  Send a gamma ray burst at the EoT.  That'll show them.
We can do that, right?
If be "do that," you mean "irradiate the entire would to sterility," I would advise against it.
If not, I doubt it.
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Re: You are a new God OOC thread.
« Reply #831 on: January 31, 2013, 11:28:08 pm »

Was it minutes? I think you're right. We're eight light-minutes from the sun.

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« Reply #832 on: January 31, 2013, 11:44:56 pm »

Also, GWG: Dogs are considered property under the law. And were, in fact, 'made'(in a manner of speech) to be subservient to humans. Is that so wrong?
Considering that dogs are not sentient? Not so much as it would be for the troglodites. Also, we're not just enslaving a species under your proposal--we'd be creating a race for the sole purpose of enslavement.

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I'm not saying we allow our people to mistreat and murder them willy-nilly(would you murder your dog(if you had one)?), but we would do well with a race of workers to tend to menial tasks.
Why on whatever planet this game is set on did you call them slaves if you didn't imagine using them anything like slaves?

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Hell, if we can build them to have no attachment to family members, and love working, it'd work out fine. In other words: is it wrong to force a robot to work if it's been programmed to love work?
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It would be wrong to force them to like working their hindquarters off and then exploiting them. Just giving them menial jobs is fine, but NOT if we force them into slavery with their psychology!
Before I go on; you used sentient in an odd way. Perhaps you meant sapient?

The power of a being's soul is seemingly tied directly to its capacity for free will. Troglodytes have weak souls. Therefor they lack free will in all its power, falling somewhere between really weak willed humans and stems(which, by the way, are essentially undead analogues) in their ability to defy us. And dogs are arguably sentient. Can they suffer? Can they experience their own little life? Yes? Good enough. And how is creating a race for the sole purpose of having workers around any different from breeding wolves into servitude? Actually, this brings to mind a curious idea; life-long body guards/manservants for our people? But I digress.

Now, are they sapient? Which is what really matters. I think not, or at least not in any way beyond a particularly wily coyote. It's obvious they're lacking in a multitude of 'higher' brain functions, or at least a good chunk of self-awareness. They're probably between dogs and orcs(though orcs may just be stupid) in that regard, to be honest. How would making them enjoy working be so evil? Your quote itself illustrates the point: Why deny a being built to take pleasure from its work the pleasure it derives from working? Perhaps building them that way could be construed as evil, but then again, Krait has his labor force, and he's a pretty okay guy.

Also I called them slaves for one reason: Because it was the first term to come to mind(all are slaves to Armok). 'Unpaid workers' had too much of an indentured servant feel, and they're not working to pay off a debt. 'Robots' is a term that only really applies to Stems, and implies a great degree of disposability. And just plain old 'workers' implied they had more free will than they do now. Perhaps the easiest way to describe it would be 'slaves with rights'. Like permanent indentured servants.
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Re: You are a new God OOC thread.
« Reply #833 on: January 31, 2013, 11:52:41 pm »

Also, that quote really applies to Leto, all things considered. He's a sentient being, but he WANTS to be used as a spy/assassin/infiltrator/kidnapper/eater of children.

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Re: You are a new God OOC thread.
« Reply #834 on: January 31, 2013, 11:57:11 pm »

Also, that quote really applies to Leto, all things considered. He's a sentient being, but he WANTS to be used as a spy/assassin/infiltrator/kidnapper/eater of children.
Leto is another topic altogether. We've proven he's sapient.
We're arguing about making the troglodytes into bug people servant creatures.
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« Reply #835 on: February 01, 2013, 12:09:44 am »

WE ARE FUCKING CHAOS. WHY DO WE GIVE A SHIT WHETHER IT IS ETHICAL TO MAKE SUBSERVIENT BEINGS SENTIENT. YOU'RE SOUNDING LIKE THOSE EOT ASSHOLES AND THEIR STUPID ASS GENDOVA CONVENTION. "OH, WE SHOULDN'T EXPLODE OUR ENEMIES INTERNAL ORGANS BEFORE KILLING THEM. THAT'S INHUMANE." THE WHINY BITCHES.
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« Reply #836 on: February 01, 2013, 12:19:46 am »

WE ARE FUCKING CHAOS. WHY DO WE GIVE A SHIT WHETHER IT IS ETHICAL TO MAKE SUBSERVIENT BEINGS SENTIENT. YOU'RE SOUNDING LIKE THOSE EOT ASSHOLES AND THEIR STUPID ASS GENDOVA CONVENTION. "OH, WE SHOULDN'T EXPLODE OUR ENEMIES INTERNAL ORGANS BEFORE KILLING THEM. THAT'S INHUMANE." THE WHINY BITCHES.

.... Just because we're chaos doesn't make us inherently evil, chaos has nothing to do with evil, you can be a good got but still be chaos there isn't like an alignment restriction. Hell there are eight Evil Order Gods, in this universe it seems Chaos gods are the good guys and order the bad ones.
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« Reply #837 on: February 01, 2013, 02:40:13 am »

Exactly. They are evil because they exterminate their ennemies based on what they are, not what they do: Chaos god? Sentence is death. What? You were saving childrens, making peace with everyone and feeding people? Doesnt matter. KILL HIM!
Also they swore to exterminate all dwarves. I saw that coming, but still... Also that open us lots of potential allies, since every non-purely human god is on our side of the line (drawed by the EoT) on the bass their worshipper base is "tainted" or whatever. Dwarven gods? Instant ally. Elves god? Non-aggression pact is a given, alliance might prove more or less difficult depending on the EoT threat and dwarf-elf antagonization. Undead gods? Same. Magic-users based gods? instant ally.
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« Reply #838 on: February 01, 2013, 08:02:37 am »

hm. should we take some time when its good to use small ammounts mana to train our skills by being creative?

And also in the afterliefe, should there be other islands or seas? maybey have ones more lifey or chaosy? This is for when it grows bigger and a very long term idea that can be worked on casually.

and also, should we have an exscape plan for our souls and Future guardians as a contingency.

Also, we can get info form the souls or our priest about the god before and what happened in more detail. maybe we are the reincarnation.

Or maybe, the child of some dead gods or maybe the merging of a lot of dead gods. that would explain the chaos a .ittle bit.
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« Reply #839 on: February 01, 2013, 09:29:22 am »

WE ARE FUCKING CHAOS. WHY DO WE GIVE A SHIT WHETHER IT IS ETHICAL TO MAKE SUBSERVIENT BEINGS SENTIENT. YOU'RE SOUNDING LIKE THOSE EOT ASSHOLES AND THEIR STUPID ASS GENDOVA CONVENTION. "OH, WE SHOULDN'T EXPLODE OUR ENEMIES INTERNAL ORGANS BEFORE KILLING THEM. THAT'S INHUMANE." THE WHINY BITCHES.
I think you have omnicidal maniacs confused with damn near every country on this planet.
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