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The "Is it good?" thread. Ask before you buy.
« on: January 19, 2013, 03:50:59 pm »

Yep, this is the place folks! No more posting entire new topics to ask if a game is worth your while. This is the future!

First off I'm going to ask just a few things from the posters.

1) Please keep it civil. Lets try to avoid wars between fan bases / ideologies as much as possible, we're here to help after all.
2) Everyone has different tastes. A game you detest might be another persons treasured gem. If you don't like something it doesn't mean everyone else should.
3) If you are going to out a game as being bad, provide reasons for thinking that way. Drive by posts such as "Its shit, don't buy it" are not welcome here.
4) Opinions on which reviews are worthwhile or not are heavily varied by person, lets avoid linking to reviews or assuming that reviewers are any more entitled to their opinion than any of us. If the person is asking about the game in this thread we can assume that they're here for our opinion, not to get linked to a review site, so don't do it.
5) If you are asking about a game, it could do you good to list some other games of similar genre that you do or don't like, for everyone elses reference.
6) Provide links to the game you're discussing if possible.



Lets get rolling, I saw this game while rolling around on steam.
http://www.minerwars.com/

Miner Wars 2081, sounds pretty generic right? The trailer videos make it look like a blast though, graphics are questionable but I don't really care too much about that. But I'm not sure if its what I want, I mean I loved the combat in Vendetta Online, and Allegiance was also pretty good in that regard.

Also the "backstory" is one the most ridiculous I've seen in quite a while. But with this kind of thing I think the gameplay matters more to me, especially in the multiplayer, which it apparently has.

Ship customization, so hopefully there's no "Perfect Build" where you'll get laughed out of MP if you're not using. (Supreme Commander Setons, dear god the setons players).

It also seems to have been approved by the Steam Greenlight system, one of the first wave I guess?

Anyone played it before? Got an opinion on it?
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Re: The "Is it good?" thread. Ask before you buy.
« Reply #1 on: January 19, 2013, 03:59:27 pm »

Miner Wars 2081
Oh dear.

I've followed that game since early alpha, and for some foolish reason bought it. The developers seemed to put side projects, little apps for iOS and the such above getting on with the game. It was misadvertised a lot early on, in two ways. First, it seemed you were buying a single AND multiplayer product, but it turned out they were separate and the MMO was not going to be ready for years. Thankfully they gave all who had purchased then a free copy of both to make up for it.
Also, from launch it was advertised as more of a sandbox/construction/tactical game than a generic "you got to shoot russians now" FPS in space. While it might do well at that, it's certainly not what was promised early on.
All in all, I've given up on it. It may do well at what it does, but that isn't what I bought it for and isn't what I was promised. The devs have disappointed me at every twist and turn, and I doubt I'll touch it again.

So, in summary, no. I wouldn't say it is good. ;D
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« Reply #2 on: January 19, 2013, 04:13:34 pm »

Anyone play Unepic, Reprisal, and/or Recruits, and have an opinion on them?
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« Reply #3 on: January 19, 2013, 04:57:52 pm »

Ahem, I would much appreciate it if anybody could answer my three questions:

1) Is Pathologic a good horror game to buy? As in, will it really creep me out or is it the horror limited to the "SHOOT CREEPY THINGS" game type2?

2) Is Crusader Kings 2 (CK2) realistic and not boring* enough to warrant a purchase? Just for reference, by boring I mean sitting six hours in front of a computer to even get a not-unsuccessful kingdom up.

3) Will I be better off buying Romance of The Three Kingdoms instead of CK2 in terms of Realism or should I buy them both?

Thanks in advance,
~CW.

PS: I'm also debating buying all three.
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« Reply #4 on: January 19, 2013, 05:11:38 pm »

I can answer the second for you. If you've played other Paradox Interactive games before, you'll probably like it. It's pretty fun strategy, and a good dynastic symulator. I recommend starting as a count or something low, because half the fun is fighting your way to the top. They've released some pretty good DLC's for it too, with the most recent letting you play as merchant republics such as Venice. Personally, i like it better than Romance of The Three Kingdoms, but I'm a pretty big Paradox fan. It's up to you really.

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« Reply #5 on: January 19, 2013, 05:14:49 pm »

1) Is Pathologic a good horror game to buy? As in, will it really creep me out or is it the horror limited to the "SHOOT CREEPY THINGS" game type2?
Because I have just started playing it, I speak for its horror elements too much - although the atmosphere is generally somewhat creepy. But at least it isn't focused on shooting things; bullets are pretty freakin' expensive. There aren't too many "enemies" - as in things that attack you on sight - as long as you play as the bachelor.
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« Reply #6 on: January 19, 2013, 05:18:37 pm »

I can answer the second for you. If you've played other Paradox Interactive games before, you'll probably like it. It's pretty fun strategy, and a good dynastic symulator. I recommend starting as a count or something low, because half the fun is fighting your way to the top. They've released some pretty good DLC's for it too, with the most recent letting you play as merchant republics such as Venice. Personally, i like it better than Romance of The Three Kingdoms, but I'm a pretty big Paradox fan. It's up to you really.
Hmmm, that does sound enticing. Is there marriage and bribing in CK2? Oh and perhaps spies too?

1) Is Pathologic a good horror game to buy? As in, will it really creep me out or is it the horror limited to the "SHOOT CREEPY THINGS" game type2?
Because I have just started playing it, I speak for its horror elements too much - although the atmosphere is generally somewhat creepy. But at least it isn't focused on shooting things; bullets are pretty freakin' expensive. There aren't too many "enemies" - as in things that attack you on sight - as long as you play as the bachelor.
No (useless and endless) shooting? That's one major point in its favour for me then. Off into my 'To Buy' list it goes. Thanks!
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« Reply #7 on: January 19, 2013, 05:27:43 pm »

I can answer the second for you. If you've played other Paradox Interactive games before, you'll probably like it. It's pretty fun strategy, and a good dynastic symulator. I recommend starting as a count or something low, because half the fun is fighting your way to the top. They've released some pretty good DLC's for it too, with the most recent letting you play as merchant republics such as Venice. Personally, i like it better than Romance of The Three Kingdoms, but I'm a pretty big Paradox fan. It's up to you really.
Hmmm, that does sound enticing. Is there marriage and bribing in CK2? Oh and perhaps spies too?
Marriage is one of the most important aspects of the game. It's near essential for claims and alliances. You can also pay someone to increase their opinion of you, and you get your own spymaster. Are you sold yet? :D
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« Reply #8 on: January 19, 2013, 05:29:14 pm »

Yep, marriage is there, as well as children. You can bribe your vassals to make them like you more. The game spans from 1066 to 1453 I believe, and you can choose to start anytime from 1066 to 1337. There aren't spies, but there is an intrigue system in which you can plot with others to kill someone, or to have their title granted to you. Basically, the goal is to acheive the most prestigious dynasty by the end of the game. When your character dies, you play as your eldest son/daughter depending on your succession laws. There's all sorts of fun stuff, such as crusades if you're playing as a Catholic, and factions, which is where a large group of nobles bands together to achieve independence, or to see someone else on the throne.

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« Reply #9 on: January 19, 2013, 05:30:57 pm »

Marriage is one of the most important aspects of the game. It's near essential for claims and alliances. You can also pay someone to increase their opinion of you, and you get your own spymaster. Are you sold yet? :D

Exactly. Not near essential, essential, hahaha.

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« Reply #10 on: January 19, 2013, 05:35:52 pm »

Ahem, I would much appreciate it if anybody could answer my three questions:

1) Is Pathologic a good horror game to buy? As in, will it really creep me out or is it the horror limited to the "SHOOT CREEPY THINGS" game type2?

2) Is Crusader Kings 2 (CK2) realistic and not boring* enough to warrant a purchase? Just for reference, by boring I mean sitting six hours in front of a computer to even get a not-unsuccessful kingdom up.

3) Will I be better off buying Romance of The Three Kingdoms instead of CK2 in terms of Realism or should I buy them both?

Thanks in advance,
~CW.

PS: I'm also debating buying all three.

1) It is but remember that the horror elements come at the expense of gameplay. This can be either a good thing or a bad thing for you. I consider it a good thing.

2) Crusader Kings 2 is personally boring to me. It depends if you consider the fact that the actual goal of the game is to get points to be a detriment or something you can ignore. Almost the ENTIRE Crusader King 2 community actually outright ignore points. Ultimately I just think it is overrated and mildly boring because anything you want to do is filtered through the fact that the game is about points thus bogging the game down.

3) Romance of the Three Kingdoms isn't realistic at all. As well each one is different then the one that came before. You have to really research the exact one you are buying.
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« Reply #11 on: January 19, 2013, 05:44:19 pm »

Marriage is one of the most important aspects of the game. It's near essential for claims and alliances. You can also pay someone to increase their opinion of you, and you get your own spymaster. Are you sold yet? :D
Yep, marriage is there, as well as children. You can bribe your vassals to make them like you more. The game spans from 1066 to 1453 I believe, and you can choose to start anytime from 1066 to 1337. There aren't spies, but there is an intrigue system in which you can plot with others to kill someone, or to have their title granted to you. Basically, the goal is to acheive the most prestigious dynasty by the end of the game. When your character dies, you play as your eldest son/daughter depending on your succession laws. There's all sorts of fun stuff, such as crusades if you're playing as a Catholic, and factions, which is where a large group of nobles bands together to achieve independence, or to see someone else on the throne.
... Off to the top of my To Buy list CK2 goes! Thanks to you gentlemen, methinks I finally found the game I always wanted. I never thought CK2 was this great! Thanks again! :)

Ahem, I would much appreciate it if anybody could answer my three questions:

1) Is Pathologic a good horror game to buy? As in, will it really creep me out or is it the horror limited to the "SHOOT CREEPY THINGS" game type2?

2) Is Crusader Kings 2 (CK2) realistic and not boring* enough to warrant a purchase? Just for reference, by boring I mean sitting six hours in front of a computer to even get a not-unsuccessful kingdom up.

3) Will I be better off buying Romance of The Three Kingdoms instead of CK2 in terms of Realism or should I buy them both?

Thanks in advance,
~CW.

PS: I'm also debating buying all three.

1) It is but remember that the horror elements come at the expense of gameplay. This can be either a good thing or a bad thing for you. I consider it a good thing.

2) Crusader Kings 2 is personally boring to me. It depends if you consider the fact that the actual goal of the game is to get points to be a detriment or something you can ignore. Almost the ENTIRE Crusader King 2 community actually outright ignore points. Ultimately I just think it is overrated and mildly boring because anything you want to do is filtered through the fact that the game is about points thus bogging the game down.

3) Romance of the Three Kingdoms isn't realistic at all. As well each one is different then the one that came before. You have to really research the exact one you are buying.

1) So long as it is not downright annoying, I guess some oddities in the game can easily be ignored if the story and horror aspects are good. Still in my To Buy list it is then.

2) I am a little confused about CK2 now. It is point-based? As in, there is a minimum point requirement for the player by the end of a time period or is it just points as in... who fared better? If it's the latter, that would be great. The former, however...

3) True, my apologizes for not specifying, I forgot there are nearly a dozen versions. :P Is Romance of the Three Kingdoms XI any good?
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« Reply #12 on: January 19, 2013, 05:48:11 pm »

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1) So long as it is not downright annoying, I guess some oddities in the game can easily be ignored if the story and horror aspects are good. Still in my To Buy list it is then.

2) I am a little confused about CK2 now. It is point-based? As in, there is a minimum point requirement for the player by the end of a time period or is it just points as in... who fared better? If it's the latter, that would be great. The former, however...

3) True, my apologizes for not specifying, I forgot there are nearly a dozen versions.  Is Romance of the Three Kingdoms XI any good?

1) I wouldn't know. It is just something to keep a heads up on. The gameplay faults are intentional to enhance the story and horror.

2) Yes CK2 is point based. You play until a stop date and it adds up all the points each of your characters earned and tells you, your rank. It is ignored but it is how the game is played.

3) It is too far out from where I left the series for me to officially say.
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« Reply #13 on: January 19, 2013, 05:54:14 pm »

2) I am a little confused about CK2 now. It is point-based? As in, there is a minimum point requirement for the player by the end of a time period or is it just points as in... who fared better? If it's the latter, that would be great. The former, however...

It's the latter. At the end, it compares how you did with historical medieval dynasties, like the Capets, the Planteganets and the Habsburgs.

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« Reply #14 on: January 19, 2013, 05:58:50 pm »

Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess. I would normally buy without question, but I was severely disappointed by Wind Waker and now I'm not so sure (especially since a used copy sans manual goes for ~$30).

Don't get me wrong, I'm not going to scream "IT'S NOT THE SAAAAAME", but I seriously disliked the sailing. If I can put down the controller and make a sandwich during the largest part of the game, there was probably a serious flaw somewhere in the design process. I dreaded completing a dungeon, because that meant I had to sail to the next one.

And I'll never forgive Nintendo for the Ghost Ship. Epic naval battle, unique boss? Nope, generic fight in generic map against generic enemies.
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