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Re: Golem Smith
« Reply #180 on: January 23, 2013, 03:45:48 pm »

hey, do you think that we could build a golem to carry us around? like on a seat on its back/neck? a big one so we can use it as a platform or archery.
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Re: Golem Smith
« Reply #181 on: January 23, 2013, 03:50:21 pm »

hey, do you think that we could build a golem to carry us around? like on a seat on its back/neck? a big one so we can use it as a platform or archery.

Not yet, we can currently only build up to medium sized golems.  In time though, I'm sure we'll do something like that.
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« Reply #182 on: January 23, 2013, 05:04:23 pm »

Just imagine when we can make Colossal+ golems...hundred-foot behemoths and walking castles... :D
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« Reply #183 on: January 23, 2013, 05:06:57 pm »

Just imagine when we can make Colossal+ golems...hundred-foot behemoths and walking castles... :D
Make a city made entirely of golems...

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« Reply #184 on: January 23, 2013, 05:20:43 pm »

We need to eventually make a golem that creates other golems, then makes several copies of itself, then creates giant golem!
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« Reply #185 on: January 23, 2013, 05:30:55 pm »

Just imagine when we can make Colossal+ golems...hundred-foot behemoths and walking castles... :D
Make a city made entirely of golems...
No, a golem with a city built onto it!
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« Reply #186 on: January 23, 2013, 05:35:41 pm »

Just imagine when we can make Colossal+ golems...hundred-foot behemoths and walking castles... :D
Make a city made entirely of golems...
No, a golem with a city built onto it!
It's golems all the way down!

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« Reply #187 on: January 23, 2013, 05:37:30 pm »

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« Reply #188 on: January 23, 2013, 05:45:46 pm »

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« Reply #189 on: January 23, 2013, 08:10:03 pm »

we are talking CITY, not FORTRESS.
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« Reply #190 on: January 23, 2013, 08:36:48 pm »

Well, let's crunch some numbers.

A city requires housing and work. Assume that we're going by D&D population thresholds as well as size categories; a small city is 5,000 to 12,000 in size. Assume a fairly big small city and say 10,000. Assume that the mean person requires a spartan 500 square feet for their personal lodging, with a 10-foot height (including the thickness of floor and ceiling). That's fifty million cubic feet. Assuming a 2:7:9 ratio of thickness:width:height for the torso, and assuming that only the torso contains residential quarters (the nobles might live in the head, but they get a lot more than just normal houses), and that's a 126-cube figure. Each cube needs to be about 400,000 cubic feet...dang, that doesn't cuberoot easily. It's about 74 feet. 74*9=666 (creepy), so the torso would be over 650 tall. Assuming that the torso is about half the size of the total golem, and we have a 1,300-foot golem. Going by D&D size categories (what the GM is using), 1,300 feet is Colossal++++. Going by extrapolations of the given formulae as far as I remember, it would take 256 times as long to make a Colossal++++ golem as the stated times...so, we'd need a mountain and a couple years to make that golem. Plus the time to make the actual city. Oh, and this assumes that the citizens work in the golem's limbs.
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« Reply #191 on: January 23, 2013, 08:54:51 pm »

Well, let's crunch some numbers.

A city requires housing and work. Assume that we're going by D&D population thresholds as well as size categories; a small city is 5,000 to 12,000 in size. Assume a fairly big small city and say 10,000. Assume that the mean person requires a spartan 500 square feet for their personal lodging, with a 10-foot height (including the thickness of floor and ceiling). That's fifty million cubic feet. Assuming a 2:7:9 ratio of thickness:width:height for the torso, and assuming that only the torso contains residential quarters (the nobles might live in the head, but they get a lot more than just normal houses), and that's a 126-cube figure. Each cube needs to be about 400,000 cubic feet...dang, that doesn't cuberoot easily. It's about 74 feet. 74*9=666 (creepy), so the torso would be over 650 tall. Assuming that the torso is about half the size of the total golem, and we have a 1,300-foot golem. Going by D&D size categories (what the GM is using), 1,300 feet is Colossal++++. Going by extrapolations of the given formulae as far as I remember, it would take 256 times as long to make a Colossal++++ golem as the stated times...so, we'd need a mountain and a couple years to make that golem. Plus the time to make the actual city. Oh, and this assumes that the citizens work in the golem's limbs.
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« Reply #192 on: January 23, 2013, 09:01:05 pm »

666?  It must be a lucky sign!
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« Reply #193 on: January 23, 2013, 10:32:38 pm »

Whoop, sorry, got a bit lost on the internet.

Clay, bulky, spiral head, 2 graspers, 2 spines, medium size.

(forgot to mention that graspers have 4 HP)

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« Reply #194 on: January 23, 2013, 10:37:52 pm »

More numbers that don't require 10,000 people:

The DMG lists a small town as 900-2,000 people. Assuming 1,500, that's 500*1,500*10=7,500,000 cubic feet. Divided up, that's 60,000 cubic feet per cube, which is about 64,000, which has a cubic root of 40. 40*9=360, *2 is 720. Reducing our ambitions to a small town probably cuts construction time in half and material cost by at least 8.

A golem for a single family to live in would probably require about 1,000 square feet, or 10,000 cubic feet in the torso, for cubes of about 80 cubic feet each. That's a cubic root of 4. Four times nine is 36, times two is 72 feet tall. (This house would probably have three or four floors of 8x28 feet each, big enough for two or three rooms each.) This golem would be normal-Colossal and therefore take about 16 times as long, probably a month or two of work. Oh, and just to note...

If we went insane, and had a city-sized golem inhabited by house!golems, it would need to be something like 16 times as tall (somewhere almost 200,000 feet tall, or almost 40 miles tall) and take three decades or so of work to build, not counting the almost-a-millennium it would take to actually make those 10,000 golems. If we had a few hundred apprentices, we could do it. Otherwise? Not without immortality. (And 30,000-50,000 people.)
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