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Who's excited for Warrens' return?

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Re: (ISG) The Warrens of Oric the Awesome: 20k! Magnificent!
« Reply #20085 on: May 07, 2015, 02:40:37 pm »

The obvious solution is to kill Riltia, right? Right?
Eventually combine all Illborn we receive, then combine Polydectes, into a literal Soulless Abomination.

Hm. I wonder if Polydectes is actually an Illborn. He refused to let us scan him, so we don't actually know. I wonder if that's the motivation for his Illborn research.
Well, I mean, He's not on the Influx, so I'd say it is a pretty huge chance he probably is Illborn.
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Re: (ISG) The Warrens of Oric the Awesome: 20k! Magnificent!
« Reply #20086 on: May 07, 2015, 02:42:29 pm »

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Re: (ISG) The Warrens of Oric the Awesome: 20k! Magnificent!
« Reply #20087 on: May 07, 2015, 02:51:32 pm »

The obvious solution is to kill Riltia, right? Right?
Eventually combine all Illborn we receive, then combine Polydectes, into a literal Soulless Abomination.

Hm. I wonder if Polydectes is actually an Illborn. He refused to let us scan him, so we don't actually know. I wonder if that's the motivation for his Illborn research.
Well, I mean, He's not on the Influx, so I'd say it is a pretty huge chance he probably is Illborn.

Ah, but the Angels don't show up either. Illborn are creatures who come into the Warrens and have their soul sucked out through a bendy straw; what if Polydectes is a native denizen of the Warrens, a renegade from before the era of Cycles?

Not likely, I know, but fun to jaw about.

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Re: (ISG) The Warrens of Oric the Awesome: 20k! Magnificent!
« Reply #20088 on: May 07, 2015, 02:56:20 pm »

... why not likely?
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Re: (ISG) The Warrens of Oric the Awesome: 20k! Magnificent!
« Reply #20089 on: May 07, 2015, 03:09:27 pm »

Plot twist: Polynesia is the Last Seraphim.
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Re: (ISG) The Warrens of Oric the Awesome: 20k! Magnificent!
« Reply #20090 on: May 07, 2015, 05:00:28 pm »

... why not likely?

Occam's Razor: Either there is an entire class of Warrens denizens which we have never encountered or heard about (soulless, non-Angel, non-Illborn) or Polydectes is just an Illborn. They both explain the situation equally well, and we don't have to assume any new information for the latter to be true, so most likely that's it unless we can find some independent evidence that he's not Illborn or there are such a class of Warrens denizens.

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Re: (ISG) The Warrens of Oric the Awesome: 20k! Magnificent!
« Reply #20091 on: May 07, 2015, 05:17:17 pm »

... why not likely?

Occam's Razor: Either there is an entire class of Warrens denizens which we have never encountered or heard about (soulless, non-Angel, non-Illborn) or Polydectes is just an Illborn. They both explain the situation equally well, and we don't have to assume any new information for the latter to be true, so most likely that's it unless we can find some independent evidence that he's not Illborn or there are such a class of Warrens denizens.
It's also possible he's one of the ones who entered of their own accord, like Yaos. He may have a soul star that we just haven't seen yet. Or maybe his soul star is what allowed him to re-purpose the LSS?
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Re: (ISG) The Warrens of Oric the Awesome: 20k! Magnificent!
« Reply #20092 on: May 07, 2015, 05:35:10 pm »

... why not likely?

Occam's Razor: Either there is an entire class of Warrens denizens which we have never encountered or heard about (soulless, non-Angel, non-Illborn) or Polydectes is just an Illborn. They both explain the situation equally well, and we don't have to assume any new information for the latter to be true, so most likely that's it unless we can find some independent evidence that he's not Illborn or there are such a class of Warrens denizens.
It's also possible he's one of the ones who entered of their own accord, like Yaos. He may have a soul star that we just haven't seen yet. Or maybe his soul star is what allowed him to re-purpose the LSS?

As javierpwn pointed out, if he had a Soul Star he'd show up in the Astral Influx, right?

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Re: (ISG) The Warrens of Oric the Awesome: 20k! Magnificent!
« Reply #20093 on: May 07, 2015, 05:39:23 pm »

... why not likely?

Occam's Razor: Either there is an entire class of Warrens denizens which we have never encountered or heard about (soulless, non-Angel, non-Illborn) or Polydectes is just an Illborn. They both explain the situation equally well, and we don't have to assume any new information for the latter to be true, so most likely that's it unless we can find some independent evidence that he's not Illborn or there are such a class of Warrens denizens.
It's also possible he's one of the ones who entered of their own accord, like Yaos. He may have a soul star that we just haven't seen yet. Or maybe his soul star is what allowed him to re-purpose the LSS?

As javierpwn pointed out, if he had a Soul Star he'd show up in the Astral Influx, right?
Not necessarily. Yaos never appeared, did he? Nor has Floe, and she presumably has a star. We've seen her and held a (n admittedly brief) conversation with her. Shouldn't she appear on there?
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Re: (ISG) The Warrens of Oric the Awesome: 20k! Magnificent!
« Reply #20094 on: May 07, 2015, 05:43:45 pm »

Precisely- they have to be friendly with the currently controlled character. And perhaps Polydectes has a nullifying soul star?
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Re: (ISG) The Warrens of Oric the Awesome: 20k! Magnificent!
« Reply #20095 on: May 07, 2015, 05:58:59 pm »

This opens up the question of what does it take to appear on the influx.
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Re: (ISG) The Warrens of Oric the Awesome: 20k! Magnificent!
« Reply #20096 on: May 07, 2015, 06:09:55 pm »

This opens up the question of what does it take to appear on the influx.
A soul, being met, meeting someone with the Influx on a party member.

When we met Floe, we didn't have our Soul Star. When we met Yaos, we didn't have our Soul Star. When we met everyone else with a Soul who appeared on the Influx, we had the Soul Star.
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Re: (ISG) The Warrens of Oric the Awesome: 20k! Magnificent!
« Reply #20097 on: May 07, 2015, 06:11:26 pm »

This opens up the question of what does it take to appear on the influx.
A soul, being met, meeting someone with the Influx on a party member.

When we met Floe, we didn't have our Soul Star. When we met Yaos, we didn't have our Soul Star. When we met everyone else with a Soul who appeared on the Influx, we had the Soul Star.
Right then, I'd say Polydectes is illborn then.
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Re: (ISG) The Warrens of Oric the Awesome: 20k! Magnificent!
« Reply #20098 on: May 07, 2015, 06:40:05 pm »

good sir, Proxxy does not have the Astral Influx.
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Re: (ISG) The Warrens of Oric the Awesome: 20k! Magnificent!
« Reply #20099 on: May 07, 2015, 06:43:18 pm »

good sir, Proxxy does not have the Astral Influx.
we had already met Polydectes, as Ciro, Influx in inventory
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