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[RoaryStar]

I just tested Tomcost's method.

First four lines are IQU (-+>+...)
Someone try it without spaces.

Great ideas here, people! One thing:

How familiar is everyone with the computer programming terminology employed? We see some common terms here which in programming have a nuance a little different from their meanings in mathematical or standard usage.

To increment, or more specifically to use the increment operator, means to increase by one; in programming languages, this is often expressed by the sign ++. Thus, x++ would mean "add one to x" or "increment x (by one)".

The opposite of this is "decrement" or to lower a value by one which is represented by --, so x-- would subtract one from x.

While in conventional usage there can be such a thing as a "negative increment" or an "increment of two", Proxxy I think would stray closer to computer programming usage and thus we should avoid these other concepts. Still, this could always amount to some masterly misdirection on FFS's part.

She specifically uses -- in method2, so I'm pretty sure it's the programming usage.

[Tomcost]

I just tested Tomcost's method.

First four lines are IQU (-+>+...)

Unfortunately, it degrades into nothing after that.

The next two letters are: YW

Yep, we are not getting anywhere.

[FallacyofUrist]

Addressing the above theorycrafting point by point:

Ciro cannot be a Sibling because they came from outside the Warrens:

Fairly certain Ciro didn't actually enter the Warrens. She doesn't even remember anything about the Kingdom of Haria, meaning its probably an implanted backstory. Moreover, entry to the Warrens is almost impossible: Al only got in because Last Seraph and Yaos only got in because of the unique nature of their Soul Star, IIRC.

Ciro cannot be the Target because Oric didn't try to kill them when they met:

Most of the main theories we have on why Oric wants the Target dead involve Soul Charge. Oric wants the Target to run around generating Soul Charge and then, once they've killed all the other Siblings and completely filled up on Soul Charge, kill them and use the Influx to power the Warren. The current trouble in the Underside, as well as Cain's story about Oric's Hammer, confirms Soul Charge is used to power the dungeon levels. The Astral Influx is especially good at holding/gaining[<-Can't remember which] Soul Charge, so that's why the Target has to generate the Soul Charge.

Riltia cannot be a non-Target Sibling because they joined our party too easily:

Remember that no one except possibly Oric knows anything about the gray Sibling whatsoever. Riltia probably doesn't even know that much about herself.

Riltia must be the Target because Oric wants us to kill her:

This leads back to the above point: Oric doesn't want the Target dead, he wants them to generate tons of Soul Charge and then, at the end of the cycle, kill them himself. If the Siblings band together with the Target, this means less Soul Charge and he dislikes that. Plus he's paranoid about the Siblings rebelling against him. So he does stuff like chain up Proxxy and try to make us kill Riltia to ensure that doesn't happen. The reason Oric wouldn't kill her himself is because her ?? rubric would/might have reflected his Awesome attacks back at him, like she did to Ecco's mech.

Moreover, only the true owner of a Soul Star can Second Shift it, and Ciro Second Shifted the Astral Influx. The Target is the true owner of the Astral Influx. Ergo, Ciro is the Target.

Okay. You win. Ciro is definitely the Target. Unfortunately, this means Oric most likely has some way of draining soul charge- and I think this might be a stretch- it can only be done to second shifted stars. In which case Proxxy needs to shift back now. Why only second shifts? Because Oric didn't go and drain Ciro's soul charge while she was in Oversoul, and that would have been a great time to get a lot of charge.

[Dermonster]

It seems like you aren't getting anywhere!

I wonder why.





^{(i do know why)}

[Chris the OK]

Here's how I interpret Tomcost's idea:

YR| RUST |TU
-+|++++|-+

Code: [Select]

  1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9 10 11 12 13
  N  O  P  Q  R  S  T  U  V  W  X  Y  Zconsidering both the "halfhabet" and -/+ sign gives us: -12, +5, +5, +8, +6, +7, -7, +8

Code: [Select]

- 12 11 10  9  8  7  6  5  4  3  2  1 +1
   A  B  C  D  E  F  G  H  I  J  K  L  M 
+  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9 10 11 12 13  ?
   N  O  P  Q  R  S  T  U  V  W  X  Y  Zresuls of cipher grid suggested by Tomcost: AQ QTRS FT

How have I done this differently? Whatever the case, it doesn't result in anything useful, even if I put it into a cryptogram solver.

Also this is pretty much the first thing I tried except for beginning at index 0 and adding or subtracting from there. That was equally useless.

[Tomcost]

Here's how I interpret Tomcost's idea:

YR| RUST |TU
-+|++++|-+

Code: [Select]

  1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9 10 11 12 13
  N  O  P  Q  R  S  T  U  V  W  X  Y  Zconsidering both the "halfhabet" and -/+ sign gives us: -12, +5, +5, +8, +6, +7, -7, +8

Code: [Select]

- 12 11 10  9  8  7  6  5  4  3  2  1 +1
   A  B  C  D  E  F  G  H  I  J  K  L  M 
+  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9 10 11 12 13  ?
   N  O  P  Q  R  S  T  U  V  W  X  Y  Zresuls of cipher grid suggested by Tomcost: AQ QTRS FT

How have I done this differently? Whatever the case, it doesn't result in anything useful, even if I put it into a cryptogram solver.

Also this is pretty much the first thing I tried except for beginning at index 0 and adding or subtracting from there. That was equally useless.

But you are forgetting to use the Increment and decrements, that may be caused by the position of the letters in the alphabet, which may only apply to those letters that precede the orange one.

[javierpwn]

Open/Modify Menu of Technomantic Visor

[Chris the OK]

Well, we have a V among the letters now, so I can't imagine there remaining any way to translate it into hex grid movements...

Also, there are 13 rooms per row on this dungeon floor...

[freeformschooler]

((bigger update later))

Open/Modify Menu of Technomantic Visor

->The Technomantic Visor's options have not changed.

[flabort]

Use the wrench to change "Elec" on the Visor into "Chain".

[Elephant Parade]

Use the wrench to change "Elec" on the Visor into "Chain".

+1

Who needs codes when you can abuse technicalities?

[heydude6]

Use the wrench to change "Elec" on the Visor into "Chain".

+1

Who needs codes when you can abuse technicalities?

+1

[javierpwn]

Change Elec to Holy
(we don't even know if they are considered to be chains, or if chains are the best analogy)

[FallacyofUrist]

Use the wrench to change "Elec" on the Visor into "Chain".

+1

Who needs codes when you can abuse technicalities?

+1

+1. This will be a roll for shenanigans-but it might work. But how about setting the repel setting to Bindings.

Has it occurred to the code solvers that adding 13 has the same effect as subtracting 13 for moving letters along the alphabet? Since that, we could say -> means add 13 and +> means subtract 1. I still tried though, and it was gibberish. However, Proxxy's comment that "whether I think positively or negatively, I still only have half" or something like that tells me that combining +> means add 13 and -> means subtract 1 with the new method thing I suggested... each gives a different result- but what if you combine the results somehow? That's the best I've got so far.

[flabort]

Yeah, it's occurred to a few people.

However, it's nice to know there are more people thinking along the same lines; makes it seem like those are the right lines.