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[Toaster]

I am for checking Proxxy's room (for both her and the status of the stairs) and the Arena.  It's unlikely she's even in there however, since we (as Cherish) originally found her in a totally different area.

[TopHat]

The Asynchrony Catalyst has two sets of {x,y} slots. It probably swaps rooms around or something

[Furtuka]

...btw just curious, but did we ever figure out the true answer to Yao's soulstar troubles? I forget.

[javierpwn]

...btw just curious, but did we ever figure out the true answer to Yao's soulstar troubles? I forget.

Second Shift could have helped. Tossing those purple gems probably could have done something.

KILLING HIM! Would have stopped his timer.

[Furtuka]

I wonder if we were meant to transfer our charge to him somehow. As one other poiinted out before, Insolvent referrs to someone incapable of paying back their debts

[Elephant Parade]

If I remember correctly, we needed to give him Soul Charge. Of course, at the time we thought we could only do that in Oversoul mode, so we were basically completely screwed.

[TopHat]

Just realised something - no rolls in Tactical Combat. We could have used our spells all the way through.
Ah well, might as well do some brief theorycrafting.

Spoiler: why does Oric want the Target dead (click to show/hide)

Theory 1: He doesn't. It's just a distraction. Siblings working concertedly to a goal > siblings left to their own devices.

Theory 2: It's all about the soul charge. The Target gains soul charge as they go through the warrens. As has been hinted at in Sinful:
   "Siblings are always the most delicious. Others have not experienced love, joy, loss. They do not taste as good as a sibling with a soul thrice as full."
This indicates that as someone has more soul charge (gained, as we know, by emotional experiences - like Love, Joy, and Loss mentioned above), they in turn grant more soul charge when they are killed (another way to gain soul charge. Incidentally, this also clears the 'no charge gain from killing illborn' issue - as they have no soul charge) Of course, this could also just be that Cain is insane, but in my mind 'taste nicer' - 'more soul charge gain' isn't too large a jump.
So, with that presumption made, everything else slots into place easily, into some kind of Xanatos gambit. Target kills Sibling - +soul charge for Target. Sibling kills Target - +Soul Charge for Sibling (and thus for the Target when they kill the Sibling in a later cycle). Eventually the Target will get through to Oric, and promptly be killed by the same, giving Oric the vast amounts of Soul Charge accumulated over the cycles by the process above; far outweighing the losses through reincarnating all the dead Siblings (including the Target) every Cycle. What Oric wants with all this soulcharge is unknown as of yet - he might just want power, or maybe even it's used as a power source (as hinted at in Al's friendly chat with Cain).

[javierpwn]

Just realised something - no rolls in Tactical Combat. We could have used our spells all the way through.
Ah well, might as well do some brief theorycrafting.

Spoiler: why does Oric want the Target dead (click to show/hide)

Theory 1: He doesn't. It's just a distraction. Siblings working concertedly to a goal > siblings left to their own devices.

Theory 2: It's all about the soul charge. The Target gains soul charge as they go through the warrens. As has been hinted at in Sinful:
   "Siblings are always the most delicious. Others have not experienced love, joy, loss. They do not taste as good as a sibling with a soul thrice as full."
This indicates that as someone has more soul charge (gained, as we know, by emotional experiences - like Love, Joy, and Loss mentioned above), they in turn grant more soul charge when they are killed (another way to gain soul charge. Incidentally, this also clears the 'no charge gain from killing illborn' issue - as they have no soul charge) Of course, this could also just be that Cain is insane, but in my mind 'taste nicer' - 'more soul charge gain' isn't too large a jump.
So, with that presumption made, everything else slots into place easily, into some kind of Xanatos gambit. Target kills Sibling - +soul charge for Target. Sibling kills Target - +Soul Charge for Sibling (and thus for the Target when they kill the Sibling in a later cycle). Eventually the Target will get through to Oric, and promptly be killed by the same, giving Oric the vast amounts of Soul Charge accumulated over the cycles by the process above; far outweighing the losses through reincarnating all the dead Siblings (including the Target) every Cycle. What Oric wants with all this soulcharge is unknown as of yet - he might just want power, or maybe even it's used as a power source (as hinted at in Al's friendly chat with Cain).

Good theory, but you might need some evidence.

[Crazy Cow]

Everyone switch their title to knight and guard! We're landing this Steiner style!

+1!

+1!

[Snallac]

Everyone switch their title to knight and guard! We're landing this Steiner style!

+1!

+1!

+1
Theory 1 might be right, but say its theory 2. There's a limit to how much soul charge you can get before you go over soul. And it seems like you use up most of your soul charge by the time you're out of over soul. So oric might be able to get some soul charge from killing Cairo eventually, but even if he got a ton then he would go over soul and use it up, if he isn't over soul all the time.

[Elephant Parade]

I doubt that Theory 1 is correct for the simple reason that FFS would probably want to keep something like that as a plot twist. If it was confirmed correct, that would spoil everything.

[freeformschooler]

Everyone switch their title to knight and guard! We're landing this Steiner style!

+1!

+1!

+1

(Guard: 5+2, 3) (Guard: 6+2, 4) (Guard: 20! Critical success!) Cherish and Al flub their Guard rolls, but your air acrobatics woo the crowd. You land hand-first without so much as spraining your arms!



Your trusty headgear remains trusty.

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[GiglameshDespair]

Change slog to passive party, ripriver to active

[flame99]

So...Odds of Ripriver being Ecco somehow or another?

Ciro: Notice Al is holding the Astral Influx. Also, check menus of the purplish bottle of liquid we're carrying.

Also, look in the upper right corner of the first page (Not including header). We've been spotted.

[Toaster]

Change slog to passive party, ripriver to active

He won't go in Active.  We tried it.

Also, check menus of the purplish bottle of liquid we're carrying.

Pretty sure that's just an odd-background SP potion.