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[javierpwn]

Bottle some 'pure' Water, splash it onto the Laz0r Dragon, watch as it slowly starts to have it's particles unbonded.

Edit: CHeck the water menus too

[flabort]

No, seriously, if we wait long enough, the dragon room might get flushed and go away, and whatever room takes its place will be safe to go through.

[monk12]

Bottle some 'pure' Water, splash it onto the Laz0r Dragon, watch as it slowly starts to have it's particles unbonded.

Edit: CHeck the water menus too

Actually.

ACTUALLY.

I don't think the water would vaporize the dragon, but if we could sever its connection to the Spirit Trap the same way the water severed our Party affiliations, we might be able to negotiate with it, or it might just instantly ascend to a higher plane or whatever. Or it might just be free to chase us through the whole dungeon, dunno. But when we get around to confronting the dragon, this is totally the tactic we should open with.

No, seriously, if we wait long enough, the dragon room might get flushed and go away, and whatever room takes its place will be safe to go through.

Yeah, but waiting around for that to happen would probably take a while and be boring (or would force a random encounter worse than the dragon.) But mostly, be boring.

[javierpwn]

No, seriously, if we wait long enough, the dragon room might get flushed and go away, and whatever room takes its place will be safe to go through.

That's why we flush him manually, with liberal application of water

[flabort]

No, seriously, if we wait long enough, the dragon room might get flushed and go away, and whatever room takes its place will be safe to go through.

That's why we flush him manually, with liberal application of water

...That's a pretty sane idea. Makes sense.

[GreatWyrmGold]

Bottle some 'pure' Water, splash it onto the Laz0r Dragon, watch as it slowly starts to have it's particles unbonded.

Um.
If that would have worked, we would have died when we were immersed in the water.

No, seriously, if we wait long enough, the dragon room might get flushed and go away, and whatever room takes its place will be safe to go through.

That's why we flush him manually, with liberal application of water

...That's a pretty sane idea. Makes sense.

Where do we get the water?

[Corai]

No, seriously, if we wait long enough, the dragon room might get flushed and go away, and whatever room takes its place will be safe to go through.

That's why we flush him manually, with liberal application of water

...That's a pretty sane idea. Makes sense.

Next idea. This isn't shenanigan enough to work.

+1

[10ebbor10]

Bottle some 'pure' Water, splash it onto the Laz0r Dragon, watch as it slowly starts to have it's particles unbonded.

Um.
If that would have worked, we would have died when we were immersed in the water.

We're not a spirit. The water severs spirit connections, so it'll probably have a bigger effect on the dragon than it had on us.

[reality.auditor]

How you guys know that local water have such strange properties? ...oh right. Just because rest of party once wandered somewhere else when Ciro was underwater*. -1 to propositions involving making Stone Dragon wet. We can bottle this water, though. It will be nice reagent.

No, seriously, if we wait long enough, the dragon room might get flushed and go away, and whatever room takes its place will be safe to go through.

If words of GM are any indication, we will wait to heat death of universe. In fact, I suspect flush of given dungeon happens only when we are NOT inside it. -1.

Our Blood stat is +0. Rolling a 20 + 0 - 10 is a fail. 0% chance of Bloodshapery of any kind, assuming the Drop still counts as part of the floor, and I'm guessing that at least the top of it is.

I think chances of pulling off bloodshaping can be better than rolling natural 20. We must simply bloodshape something sensible, not, say, ghostbuster equipment. For example, I think bloodshaping wings, while hard, will be still significantly easier than jetpack. Note that wings/jetpack will not be particularly useful for purpose of dragging rest of party up back to DL3. Ciro is not that strong.

The point is to figure out if it is.

I think during Drop we will not have time to leisurely bloodshape just because. There will be minigame involving "grazing" for "points", remember? Whatever that means.

* My private theory about it says it involves fact that Sibling (Proxxy) was in rest of party, thus assuming direct control over it during time of Ciro's absence.

[sjm9876]

Bottle some 'pure' Water, splash it onto the Laz0r Dragon, watch as it slowly starts to have it's particles unbonded.

Edit: CHeck the water menus too

+ 1
Sane shenanigans? Who could say no.

[Dorsidwarf]

Bottle some 'pure' Water, splash it onto the Laz0r Dragon, watch as it slowly starts to have it's particles unbonded.

Edit: CHeck the water menus too

+ 1
Sane shenanigans? Who could say no.

+1

[Cerol Lenslens]

Is it (not) just me, or does no one remember that we are on a magic-impeded level, which means that we can't bloodshape stuff?!?

So sue me, I can't remember if we tried and failed before. Admittedly, Bloodshaping does have a roll to be affected, unlike healing and levitation spells.

General comment: why half of players treat Bloodshape like miracle-maker? Sigh.

Actually, I agree with you on that, but in this case I figured it was applicable. From experience, Bloodshape makes weapons and armor/cloth. We've made a laser scalpel, rifle, shotgun, and headband with it off the top of my head. And IIRC, we've failed with ladders and one or two other items. A Proton Pack should count as a weapon, so I thought it was worth a shot. (The parachute thing earlier was more a joke, I just meant we might not want to blindly plummet down a pit assuming we couldn't go splat.)

Going by that, we'll be lucky if we can make wings - depends on if they count as an equippable item or not, I suspect.

[GreatWyrmGold]

Bottle some 'pure' Water, splash it onto the Laz0r Dragon, watch as it slowly starts to have it's particles unbonded.

Um.
If that would have worked, we would have died when we were immersed in the water.

We're not a spirit. The water severs spirit connections, so it'll probably have a bigger effect on the dragon than it had on us.

He was suggesting using the water to remove the molecular bonds of the Lazor Dragon, not anything like that. Proof bolded in above quote.

The point is to figure out if it is.

I think during Drop we will not have time to leisurely bloodshape just because. There will be minigame involving "grazing" for "points", remember? Whatever that means.

* My private theory about it says it involves fact that Sibling (Proxxy) was in rest of party, thus assuming direct control over it during time of Ciro's absence.

The idea was to try bloodshaping before the drop to see if the top counts as part of the level or not. It's off the map, after all.

I'm sick of being strawmanned. Please try to avoid it in the future.

Is it (not) just me, or does no one remember that we are on a magic-impeded level, which means that we can't bloodshape stuff?!?

So sue me, I can't remember if we tried and failed before. Admittedly, Bloodshaping does have a roll to be affected, unlike healing and levitation spells.

We have.

Going by that, we'll be lucky if we can make wings - depends on if they count as an equippable item or not, I suspect.

If all else fails, we can try making a suit of winged armor. Or maybe powered armor. Who wants to be Hemoglobin Woman?

[javierpwn]

Well, it's been proven that it doesn't do molecular bonds(just a jest); but Spirit bonds would be nice to test

[reality.auditor]

Not strawman, just did not understanded what you meant by that.

The idea was to try bloodshaping before the drop to see if the top counts as part of the level or not. It's off the map, after all.

-1. I assume this room with Circuitrix and Drop Pit IS part of DL3 (despite being off the map), and therefore affected by anti-magic field. I do not want to lose health more than we had already. Not worth risk.

A Proton Pack should count as a weapon, so I thought it was worth a shot.

I am against it (in general, it is unrelated to fact we are on anti-magic field) on ground that ghostbuster weapon - complicated thing from completely different reality, lore and tale, out-of-place here and with very specific use against entities that you can meet only in said tale - will be either incredibly hard to make (natural 20) or more likely outright impossible.
I do think we can bloodshape something that is not weapon or headband. Diffculty is from nature of thing you want to create (the more powerful or over-of-the-top, the harder), not some "class" or "type" of thing.

Well, it's been proven that it doesn't do molecular bonds(just a jest); but Spirit bonds would be nice to test

This whole "special water with metaphorical separation properties" idea is baseless supersition in first place. I cannot fathom how or why so many players embraced it.