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Who's excited for Warrens' return?

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Author Topic: (ISG) The Warrens of Oric the Awesome ???  (Read 3952112 times)

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Re: (ISG) The Warrens of Oric the Awesome: Also shotgun is 4 more MSP
« Reply #8085 on: August 12, 2013, 08:33:55 pm »

Re: Clot Cutter

It's been a while, but if I recall, Bloodborn is a +1 damage (from 1d4+1 to 1d4+2), and Bloodfused made it Medium-range (previous it was Melee).

Really Medium-range is OP because you can't have -4 Position ever. I should rework the Range Table.

Do remember the General Bloodshape rule: insanely powerful/complicated Ranged weapons (rocket/grenade launcher?) cost much MSP while very powerful melee weapons (greatsword?) cost lots of MHP.
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Re: (ISG) The Warrens of Oric the Awesome: Also shotgun is 4 more MSP
« Reply #8086 on: August 12, 2013, 08:40:12 pm »

Right when you said that and I saw it, your Sig Ciro said to always cheat the system.
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Re: (ISG) The Warrens of Oric the Awesome: Also shotgun is 4 more MSP
« Reply #8087 on: August 12, 2013, 08:51:30 pm »

I'm in favor of trying to get a new ranged weapon, but I would recommend trying to find a checkpoint before we do, just in case things go wrong (and so we can waltz around with 12/1 MP).

Also I am very disappointed that our new hat only gives MMP, not current MP. That would have been an amusing exploit.


...also, if we find a fountain again that hat may allow us to exploit our way to everyone having 5 bonus MP anyway.
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Re: (ISG) The Warrens of Oric the Awesome: Also shotgun is 4 more MSP
« Reply #8088 on: August 12, 2013, 08:57:18 pm »

Right when you said that and I saw it, your Sig Ciro said to always cheat the system.

As I read both of these, it said this again.  It is a sign!

Of something.
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Re: (ISG) The Warrens of Oric the Awesome: Also shotgun is 4 more MSP
« Reply #8089 on: August 12, 2013, 08:58:35 pm »

I'm in favor of trying to get a new ranged weapon, but I would recommend trying to find a checkpoint before we do, just in case things go wrong (and so we can waltz around with 12/1 MP).

Also I am very disappointed that our new hat only gives MMP, not current MP. That would have been an amusing exploit.


...also, if we find a fountain again that hat may allow us to exploit our way to everyone having 5 bonus MP anyway.
+1 et al.
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Re: (ISG) The Warrens of Oric the Awesome: Also shotgun is 4 more MSP
« Reply #8090 on: August 12, 2013, 08:58:48 pm »

We must cheat this system like it has never been cheated before!

That'll be hard, we've done a lot.
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Re: (ISG) The Warrens of Oric the Awesome: Also shotgun is 4 more MSP
« Reply #8091 on: August 12, 2013, 09:20:22 pm »

Pft, we can still cheat it, I think. In an interesting way however, not useful. See, we can potentially get negative MMP with it.

I have absolutely no idea what the hell that would do, but I wanna try.

Something easier might be to just get negative MP by casting something, then draining our MMP with something until its under the bonus the hat gives, then take the hat off.

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Re: (ISG) The Warrens of Oric the Awesome: Also shotgun is 4 more MSP
« Reply #8092 on: August 12, 2013, 09:26:58 pm »

See, we can potentially get negative MMP with it.

I have absolutely no idea what the hell that would do, but I wanna try.

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Re: (ISG) The Warrens of Oric the Awesome: Also shotgun is 4 more MSP
« Reply #8093 on: August 12, 2013, 10:45:15 pm »

People suggesting we sacrifice our MSP on weapons: may I remind everyone that in addition to Warskill (and Grass Knot if we ever get that back), the Windirection Spellbook had two other spells in it, one for 5 and one for 10 (and while I forget the 10sp one, the 5sp was Aeroblast and is probably a reasonably powerful damage spell), as well as the Ice blast spell thingy. We DO have options for it.

EDIT: Chilling Storm (10SP) sounds like it would hurt a LOT. Also sounds like an AOE spell. Sounds like something I'd like to have the option of casting if the shit ever hits the fan.
« Last Edit: August 12, 2013, 10:48:00 pm by laularukyrumo »
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Re: (ISG) The Warrens of Oric the Awesome: Also shotgun is 4 more MSP
« Reply #8094 on: August 12, 2013, 11:21:29 pm »

I'm gonna make that an official suggestion.

Cherish: Give Ciro Wind Spellbook

Ideally we'll be able to get a basic melee weapon, use our bloodshape on armor instead of weaponry, and fight as a durable caster.

Actually, why don't we bloodshape a staff, see if it gives any spellcasting synergy? Goombess seemed to imply staves are fancy like that.

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Re: (ISG) The Warrens of Oric the Awesome: Also shotgun is 4 more MSP
« Reply #8095 on: August 12, 2013, 11:26:13 pm »

WAIT.

I have an idea!

Bloodshape armor
Trade Cherish's Spellbook with Blood Armor


Remember me saying earlier about how cherish is secretly a tank because she can auto-heal on a death-dealing blow?
Give her some armor, and together with her hat, she could easily hold off a ton of bad guys.
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Re: (ISG) The Warrens of Oric the Awesome: Also shotgun is 4 more MSP
« Reply #8096 on: August 12, 2013, 11:28:19 pm »

Maybe we should get an inventory slot for Cherish, so we don't have to take away the spellbook.
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Re: (ISG) The Warrens of Oric the Awesome: Also shotgun is 4 more MSP
« Reply #8097 on: August 12, 2013, 11:40:43 pm »

An updated Range Table has been added to the OP. Melee and Long have both been buffed by the addition of a +4 bonus to compatible range. Medium-range weapons now allow the least control over rolls but also the least punishment for poor tactics.

Everyone had overall excellent tactics during the last Big Wisp battle, so I don't doubt you.
« Last Edit: August 12, 2013, 11:44:08 pm by freeformschooler »
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Re: (ISG) The Warrens of Oric the Awesome: Also shotgun is 4 more MSP
« Reply #8098 on: August 12, 2013, 11:51:55 pm »

These are the inputs on the table right now:

Ask Proxxy what she knows about this DL / where this person she wants to speak to is.
Have Goombess search for traps in the meantime.
Scan Proxxy.  Ask about void. +1
Scan Proxxy, ask if she wants crash course in adventuring since she seems confused by it. Explain that if she's traveling with us, they'll apply to her and it may help her. +1
absorbing the shotgun and bloodshaping a grenade laucher or something simmilar +1'd by "a rocket launcher"
bringing back the Clot Cutter.
Cherish: Give Ciro Wind Spellbook
Bloodshape armor
Trade Cherish's Spellbook with Blood Armor

I +1 scanning Proxxy, searching the room (avoiding the floor trap looking area on the left), absorbing the shotgun and making something that costs MSP
Also, do we know what all the things in Proxxy's inventory do?
And I think Cherish should have the +5 SP hat.  SP = free healing if she would die anyway, right?  Not sure what to do with the +5 DR helmet.  Resurrect Slog and give it to him?  Put it on the ice stick and hold it above walls and around corners to confuse/distract enemies?  Or can Cherish just wear the SP hat on top of the DR hat?  I feel like this has been an issue before...
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Re: (ISG) The Warrens of Oric the Awesome: Also shotgun is 4 more MSP
« Reply #8099 on: August 13, 2013, 12:25:39 am »

That "floor trap" looks just like the rest of the floor decoration.

We should definitely get more answers from Proxxy. I am all in favor of helping her out, even though she probably wants us to kill Cain. I bet with some tactical diplomacy, both Proxxy and Cain can survive and become allies, without either of them throwing a hissy fit. Also, explaining to her what we know about adventuring may seem like a good idea, but...

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You know maybe we're not the best people to be giving advice about adventuring.
Bloodshaping armor takes MHP, I believe FFS said. Correct me if I'm wrong. If I'm right, -1. Blood shotgun is definitely working, so no need to change it. Wind spellbook to Ciro +1.
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