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[monk12]

...We can't commit a blorbality anymore. This saddens me.

Ah well, I voted for snark because snark.

Was actually my first vote, but then I decided ffs didn't need any more encouragement

[Xantalos]

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[Mego]

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[Harbingerjm]

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What, not even AlxAl/AlxCherish?

[Slayerhero90]

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What, not even AlxAl/AlxCherish?

Al knows NOTHING about Al. NOTHING.

[Xantalos]

I don't count AlxCerish because incest that Al specifically said 'NO' to, and I don't think he has multiple personalities. If you could change that, however...

[mastahcheese]

Spoiler: TheoryCraft the Lights (click to show/hide)

If you remember, we first encountered the strange background lights waaaaay back in the prologue, when we entered Betweenford's void.

"You lead Riltia back to the shop room and have her plop the ladder down. It looks to lead into a dark area with some light spots flickering about."

Clearly, Betweenford was there to monitor them, as for their purpose, I believe it was rather overlooked when Oric's identity was revealed.





Those "Lights" are the various random room generation spells that Spira has set up to continually rework the Warrens.

Spoiler: Riltia's Bad Side (click to show/hide)

This is something that came to me while rereading.

Why is Riltia helping us? After all, she made no attempt to hide the fact that she worked for Oric.

In fact, why would the statue tell us to kill her if it seems that she's so friendly?
FFS stated after she joined, "She's probably just going to steal all your stuff and kill you later."


Not sure if this is related or not, but the phrase "they'll turn just like you." seems kind of ominous.


Everyone focused on the "traitor" bit, but what about "loving"? That's a little strong of a word to use this early in a relationship.
Why would that word come to mind?


"She will slay you." Pretty to the point, and again, why would, if it's Oric's statues, they tell us to kill Riltia, if she works for Oric?
Unless it's a warning from someone else.



She even admits that everyone keeps secrets, most likely including herself.


So if she works for him, why didn't she remember him?

Because this is why.
What charges the Soul Gauge? Killing non-Illborne, and extreme emotions, if Oric's goal requires Ciro's soul Charge, then what would be the easiest way of doing that?
Get Ciro to fall in love, and have his love betray him. And it wouldn't even be Riltia's fault, is the really sad part, because Oric is pulling all the strings, he even controls her memory, which is why she was the "cute little amnesiac girl" we first found, and why she can get along with Ciro so well, she even likes us more than we like her.

And the reason the statues tell us to kill her so badly is because if she dies, then Oric's best weapon against us has been eliminated, letting the real controllers of the statues help Ciro win.

Spoiler: Why did Ciro Bleed Internally? (click to show/hide)

I feel so completely stupid for not noticing this earlier.

Remember all the crazy ways that Ciro talked when she exited the red tube? It took her a while to readjust, notice any other time she had trouble talking?
When Oric was near and used his powers.
Ciro and Oric are linked very closely, and Ciro could feel Oric using his powers to alter the dungeon layout. As in, when we left the arena, the north door was completely gone. Oric went through while we were out, and messed with the layout, and Ciro sensed it.
It only lasted a second because Oric didn't take very long.

Spoiler: Now this one's a doozy (click to show/hide)

He says you know where you're going, when I first read this, I thought it said they did not know, but they do. They're getting relocated.

There was more gold in a job yelling at bleach-blonde men in the middle of the night than in a job protecting incredibly powerful prisoners?
I didn't have a choice. The prisoners were relocated.

Oric and his siblings were moved to a new place. But Oric didn't know of any place beyond being trapped there.

So he did the only thing he could thing of, he went back to his familiar surroundings, only this time, he was the one in charge.


So why does he want the Target dead? Because he doesn't want to lose his hold on the prison.


So who would that new Warden be? Would it be Ciro? Would it be one of the Angels? Would it be Cain?
Something tells me that need to ask Al exactly why he came here, because he knows a lot more than he's letting out on.

No, I mean that's it. You're not thinking enough. Men who think all the time are the most dangerous men in the world. A normal man builds a weapon and strikes down his brother. A thinking man builds an army and topples his nation.
Oh. Why would a normal man kill his brother?
He wasn't really thinking at the time.

After that, he says he is "always thinking"
Maybe Al wants to be the new Warden?

But I don't find that likely, after all, he didn't enter the Warrens for himself.

Let's save a life.

Spoiler: So where do we head to, now? (click to show/hide)

We need to head to the Deep.

Now everybody feel free to disprove me.

[tomio175]

No, I mean that's it. You're not thinking enough. Men who think all the time are the most dangerous men in the world. A normal man builds a weapon and strikes down his brother. A thinking man builds an army and topples his nation.
Oh. Why would a normal man kill his brother?
He wasn't really thinking at the time.

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After that, he says he is "always thinking"
Maybe Al wants to be the new Warden?

But I don't find that likely, after all, he didn't enter the Warrens for himself.

Let's save a life.

Cain killed his brother, or at least a sibling. Might this refer to him?

[monk12]

I don't count AlxCerish because incest that Al specifically said 'NO' to, and I don't think he has multiple personalities. If you could change that, however...

AlxCherish is explicitly non-romantic. As is CiroxRiltia, come to think of it. Actually, the only potential romantic pairings would be AlxCiro, AlxRiltia, and(?) AlxAl

This game needs to add Blue BFF hearts, Purple Yandere-death-hearts, and... uh, green foster parent hearts?

[Harbingerjm]

the only potential romantic pairings would be AlxCiro, AlxRiltia, and(?) AlxAl

I wouldn't exactly call any of those "romantic." Except maybe the last one. *Shudder*

[monk12]

the only potential romantic pairings would be AlxCiro, AlxRiltia, and(?) AlxAl

I wouldn't exactly call any of those "romantic." Except maybe the last one. *Shudder*

BRACE YOURSELF

CIRAL IS COMING

[Toaster]

As is CiroxRiltia, come to think of it.

How do you figure?

Now all we need to do is becomes male Cork, this tike with ridiculous anime hair, and a bloodChainflaillampsword

>implying this ship isn't sailable as-is

[Harbingerjm]

Plus also

The general availability of poisonous substances, the rate of people being killed and the easyness with which principal characters go insane doesn't suggest grimdark to me. Seems like we ended up in a Shakespearian tragedey.

Just need an incest motive and we're set.

[monk12]

As is CiroxRiltia, come to think of it.

How do you figure?

Now all we need to do is becomes male Cork, this tike with ridiculous anime hair, and a bloodChainflaillampsword

>implying this ship isn't sailable as-is

I refer you to the Met fight





BFF Adventuring Buddy? Yes. Love interest? No.

[Toaster]

Don't deny it, Ciro.  We can see the love in your eyes.